Land Registry questions

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GangsaGuy said:

Land_Registry said:

GangsaGuy said:

I am in the process of buying an apartment on leasehold. The building is a converted office block. Since having the offer accepted, the developer has sold the freehold to a third party.  My lender's solicitor now says that they cannot complete until the transfer of freehold is registered with the land registry.  My solicitor tells me this can take up to 12 months and that the lenders solicitor is being ludicrous as this is quite common in new build properties and is not a concern. The word back from my broker is that what the lender and their solicitors are stating is correct, it puts the Bank at significant risk if the Freehold title isn’t complete prior to being able to register the leasehold title.  They have suggested the sellers solicitors expedite the registration at Land Registry.  My solicitor is now trying to contact the seller's solicitor to start the process.  In the meantime, I have been on the Land Registry website and found that the buyer can also request that the registration be expedited, which I have done hoping that this might jump-start the process. My question is directed to the Land Registry: How long would the expedited process take? I am at risk of losing the apartment because I have been informed that, even though the developer initiated the sale of the freehold, they may pull this plot sale if the registration takes too long.  Enquiry reference: 211123-005824 Application reference: Title number: NYK451667

Expedition, if approved, reduces the wait time. So if it were expedited today we’d hope to consider the actual application within the next 10 working days (often sooner)
However it’s not a magic wand as the registration requirements still have to be met. 

Looking at the title quoted it’s a busy title which means we have a number of already completed sales waiting to be processed and the freehold transfer you refer to. 

In order to complete the Transfer we will need to process the earlier applications as well and that may be a time issue re how quickly everything can be done from here. 

Suggest you wait for the specific response to your request and go from there 

Thank you for your prompt response.  Do you have the application reference for the freehold transfer?  Your expedite team are asking for the specific application number before they can give me a time frame (Not sure why they can't infer from the outstanding applications).  I've asked my solicitor to ask the developer's solicitor for it, but it often takes days to get a response. 

I’d suggest you simply reply to reaffirm that you are a future buyer so no pending application to register your sale/purchase and it’s the application to register the freehold transfer from X to Y that needs expediting. You can’t complete until the new freeholder is registered 

ashleighk134

Hi,

I am nearing the end of a house purchase and I have been told that the vendors Solicitor is waiting on a document from the Land Registry for weeks now. Apparently the file was too large for immediate download & it should have been sent via email or in the post. (not sure why post would be an option as compressed zip folders exist for larger files)

Is there someone I can speak to from Land Registry to see if this is true and make sure I'm not being delayed for the sake of it?
I don't believe I have been given any reference codes. i only have my reference that the solicitors are using for my "case"

Ash.

Land_Registry

ashleighk134 said:

Hi,

I am nearing the end of a house purchase and I have been told that the vendors Solicitor is waiting on a document from the Land Registry for weeks now. Apparently the file was too large for immediate download & it should have been sent via email or in the post. (not sure why post would be an option as compressed zip folders exist for larger files)

Is there someone I can speak to from Land Registry to see if this is true and make sure I'm not being delayed for the sake of it?
I don't believe I have been given any reference codes. i only have my reference that the solicitors are using for my "case"

Ash.

I wouldn’t expect it to take weeks. Documents which are readily available are issued within days with a download being quicker than post for obvious reasons. 

If you want to check you need the title number and you can ring or email using the Contact form online - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/contact-hm-land-registry

ashleighk134

Land_Registry said:

ashleighk134 said:

Hi,

I am nearing the end of a house purchase and I have been told that the vendors Solicitor is waiting on a document from the Land Registry for weeks now. Apparently the file was too large for immediate download & it should have been sent via email or in the post. (not sure why post would be an option as compressed zip folders exist for larger files)

Is there someone I can speak to from Land Registry to see if this is true and make sure I'm not being delayed for the sake of it?
I don't believe I have been given any reference codes. i only have my reference that the solicitors are using for my "case"

Ash.

I wouldn’t expect it to take weeks. Documents which are readily available are issued within days with a download being quicker than post for obvious reasons. 

If you want to check you need the title number and you can ring or email using the Contact form online 

Hi, thank you for replying.
there is currently two titles for the property much to my disappointment as I was sold the property as freehold. Vendors own both leasehold and freehold so there was talk of the leases being extinguished so I can buy as freehold only. This has been over 2 months in the works now. Everything else is complete besides this “one document”

freehold title: GR287393
leasehold title: GR287390

can you find any active enquiries through this and let me know what’s going on or should I use the link? 

Thanks again! 

Land_Registry

ashleighk134 said:

Land_Registry said:

ashleighk134 said:

Hi,

I am nearing the end of a house purchase and I have been told that the vendors Solicitor is waiting on a document from the Land Registry for weeks now. Apparently the file was too large for immediate download & it should have been sent via email or in the post. (not sure why post would be an option as compressed zip folders exist for larger files)

Is there someone I can speak to from Land Registry to see if this is true and make sure I'm not being delayed for the sake of it?
I don't believe I have been given any reference codes. i only have my reference that the solicitors are using for my "case"

Ash.

I wouldn’t expect it to take weeks. Documents which are readily available are issued within days with a download being quicker than post for obvious reasons. 

If you want to check you need the title number and you can ring or email using the Contact form online 

Hi, thank you for replying.
there is currently two titles for the property much to my disappointment as I was sold the property as freehold. Vendors own both leasehold and freehold so there was talk of the leases being extinguished so I can buy as freehold only. This has been over 2 months in the works now. Everything else is complete besides this “one document”

freehold title: GR287393
leasehold title: GR287390

can you find any active enquiries through this and let me know what’s going on or should I use the link? 

Thanks again! 

2 months in the works is very unlikely to be down to us as it reads as if someone is trying to get information which only takes days, not weeks/months 
If you’ve got a freehold/leasehold and want to extinguish (determine) the lease then the issue can be finding the lease. If the seller hasn’t got a copy and nor have we that could be the issue. 

I’ll take a look at the two title numbers on Monday to see if anything shows up but it really should be the conveyancers who are telling you what’s happening as it’s rarely an information only matter. Providing information (or confirming you don’t have something) doesn’t take weeks/months 

ashleighk134

Land_Registry said:

ashleighk134 said:

Land_Registry said:

ashleighk134 said:

Hi,

I am nearing the end of a house purchase and I have been told that the vendors Solicitor is waiting on a document from the Land Registry for weeks now. Apparently the file was too large for immediate download & it should have been sent via email or in the post. (not sure why post would be an option as compressed zip folders exist for larger files)

Is there someone I can speak to from Land Registry to see if this is true and make sure I'm not being delayed for the sake of it?
I don't believe I have been given any reference codes. i only have my reference that the solicitors are using for my "case"

Ash.

I wouldn’t expect it to take weeks. Documents which are readily available are issued within days with a download being quicker than post for obvious reasons. 

If you want to check you need the title number and you can ring or email using the Contact form online 

Hi, thank you for replying.
there is currently two titles for the property much to my disappointment as I was sold the property as freehold. Vendors own both leasehold and freehold so there was talk of the leases being extinguished so I can buy as freehold only. This has been over 2 months in the works now. Everything else is complete besides this “one document”

freehold title: GR287393
leasehold title: GR287390

can you find any active enquiries through this and let me know what’s going on or should I use the link? 

Thanks again! 

2 months in the works is very unlikely to be down to us as it reads as if someone is trying to get information which only takes days, not weeks/months 
If you’ve got a freehold/leasehold and want to extinguish (determine) the lease then the issue can be finding the lease. If the seller hasn’t got a copy and nor have we that could be the issue. 

I’ll take a look at the two title numbers on Monday to see if anything shows up but it really should be the conveyancers who are telling you what’s happening as it’s rarely an information only matter. Providing information (or confirming you don’t have something) doesn’t take weeks/months 

I really appreciate that thank you. They have both titles as I have had copies sent to me. I have been told conveyancers usually pin the delay blame on land Registry so if there’s nothing active you can see there end then I won’t feel like I’m hassling anyone by asking what’s going on as there’s no reason for the delay.

i look forward your info on Monday 😁

LasDunas

Hi

I hope you can help us, we are currently in the process of purchasing a bungalow. The title deeds/plan (diagram with red line around) match the physical boundaries of the property but on Mapsearch according to our solicitor the last part of the garden is not registered. This is now holding up what should be a very straightforward sale, ourselves being cash buyers and the seller has already vacated the property.

According to our solicitors this is being dealt with the Land Registry through the sellers solicitors. Unfortunately nobody is telling us what is happening or how long this is likely to take, even though I have emailed my solicitor several times.

We are currently renting and have been given notice to vacate the property on January 23rd so we are obviously keen to get this sorted.

Is it possible to look into this and see what is happening please.

The details are as follows

37 Ricardo Crescent 

Mudeford 

BH23 4BX

Title number: HP31866 

Registration number: 25317892 ( from map search )

Thank you

Slithery

LasDunas said:

We are currently renting and have been given notice to vacate the property on January 23rd so we are obviously keen to get this sorted.

In case you didn't know, the fact that your LL has given you notice doesn't mean that you have to leave the property. All it means is that when the notice expires they can, if they wish, then decide to start legal eviction proceedings which will take several months at least.

Jeffrey_Shaw

GENERAL POINT re HMLR registration delays: these are now horrendous for what are called Title Create applications (mostly Transfers of Part, new/renewed Leases, and First Registrations)- up to 18mths in many cases.

Land_Registry

ashleighk134 said:

Land_Registry said:

ashleighk134 said:

Land_Registry said:

ashleighk134 said:

Hi,

I am nearing the end of a house purchase and I have been told that the vendors Solicitor is waiting on a document from the Land Registry for weeks now. Apparently the file was too large for immediate download & it should have been sent via email or in the post. (not sure why post would be an option as compressed zip folders exist for larger files)

Is there someone I can speak to from Land Registry to see if this is true and make sure I'm not being delayed for the sake of it?
I don't believe I have been given any reference codes. i only have my reference that the solicitors are using for my "case"

Ash.

I wouldn’t expect it to take weeks. Documents which are readily available are issued within days with a download being quicker than post for obvious reasons. 

If you want to check you need the title number and you can ring or email using the Contact form online 

Hi, thank you for replying.
there is currently two titles for the property much to my disappointment as I was sold the property as freehold. Vendors own both leasehold and freehold so there was talk of the leases being extinguished so I can buy as freehold only. This has been over 2 months in the works now. Everything else is complete besides this “one document”

freehold title: GR287393
leasehold title: GR287390

can you find any active enquiries through this and let me know what’s going on or should I use the link? 

Thanks again! 

2 months in the works is very unlikely to be down to us as it reads as if someone is trying to get information which only takes days, not weeks/months 
If you’ve got a freehold/leasehold and want to extinguish (determine) the lease then the issue can be finding the lease. If the seller hasn’t got a copy and nor have we that could be the issue. 

I’ll take a look at the two title numbers on Monday to see if anything shows up but it really should be the conveyancers who are telling you what’s happening as it’s rarely an information only matter. Providing information (or confirming you don’t have something) doesn’t take weeks/months 

I really appreciate that thank you. They have both titles as I have had copies sent to me. I have been told conveyancers usually pin the delay blame on land Registry so if there’s nothing active you can see there end then I won’t feel like I’m hassling anyone by asking what’s going on as there’s no reason for the delay.

i look forward your info on Monday 😁

We received requests for information back on 8th Oct and dealt with in the normal way within days. 

We’ve just received another application for more information on the first title, 26th Nov, so that should be dealt with today/tomorrow. 

Why the gap between the two requests We don’t know.