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Mobilty cars .....Joke

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  • Nasqueron
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    fred246 wrote: »
    I had a relative who was deafened in an accident. We employed a particularly useless solicitor to claim damages. There was nothing that could be done to make him hear. I wanted the solicitor to tell me how much cash you normally get for loss of hearing. The cash could maybe buy a car or holiday or TV etc. There seemed no logical answer. Who decided how many holidays or cars was equal to loss of hearing? Our solicitor certainly was clueless.
    In the same way the state is giving cars to people who pass a disability test. This means that a disabled person is FINANCIALLY better off than an IDENTICAL able bodied person. The money can't stop them being disabled but makes life more pleasant. I am not sure how you could ever devise a system that rewards each disability fairly as each disability is different.

    The guidelines for damages are freely available online, deafness, while traumatic, doesn't stop you enjoying a holiday in the same way blindness or loss of a leg would e.g. you can still climb a mountain or walk or cycle etc

    I've pasted the below from the Judicial Studies Board Guidelines which I believe include the 10% uplift since the no win no fee rules were changed

    Deafness/tinnitus
    Either slight hearing loss or slight tinnitus - Up to £5,325
    Mild tinnitus with some hearing loss - £9,575 to £11,300
    Moderate hearing loss - £11,000 to £21,800
    Moderate tinnitus and hearing loss - £11,300 to £22,600
    Moderate to severe tinnitus - £11,000 to £21,800
    Severe tinnitus and partial hearing loss - £22,600 to £34,600
    Slight or occasional tinnitus with slight hearing loss - £5,600 to £9,575
    Total deafness - £69,000 to £83,325
    Total deafness and loss of speech - £83,325 to £107,000
    Total loss of hearing in one ear - £23,800 to £34,600

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • Car_54
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    fred246 wrote: »
    In the same way the state is giving cars to people who pass a disability test.

    It isn't. The state is giving MONEY to people who have a disability. They may choose to spend it on a car from Motability, which is a charity, not the state.

    Alternatively, they can spend it on public transport, or anything else.

    The downside of leasing a Motability car is that it draws them to the attention of mean-spirited people like the OP and others on this thread.
  • Car_54
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    Richard53 wrote: »
    If my non-working neighbour was driving about in a new Audi while I was making ends meet in a 15-year-old Corsa, I would question it too. I hope, after learning a bit about the situation, that I would change my opinion.

    I do not work, I am able-bodied, and I drive about in a new Mercedes.

    My neighbours drive a variety of cars, some in the 15-year-old Corsa bracket. I would like to think that they have better things to do than speculating about my source of income, or becoming bitter and twisted about it.

    It appears I might be wrong.
  • I have a neighbour on my street who has a new Motability car every 3 years, yet they also run another car as a runabout and a classic car.

    They obviously needed it for a disability. Not.
  • Car_54
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    I have a neighbour on my street who has a new Motability car every 3 years, yet they also run another car as a runabout and a classic car.

    They obviously needed it for a disability. Not.

    So ... anyone with more than one car cannot possibly have a disability. That's a new definition.
  • Honestly, the level of ignorance/stupidity on shown in this thread means some people could qualify for their own 'free' car.
    I don't like morning people. Or mornings. Or people.
  • I have a neighbour on my street who has a new Motability car every 3 years, yet they also run another car as a runabout and a classic car.

    They obviously needed it for a disability. Not.

    You are other small minded ignorant selfish people on this thread should try and cope on a day to day basis with a disability then perhaps you will change your view.:mad:
  • Car_54 wrote: »
    So ... anyone with more than one car cannot possibly have a disability. That's a new definition.
    bigbulldog wrote: »
    You are other small minded ignorant selfish people on this thread should try and cope on a day to day basis with a disability then perhaps you will change your view.:mad:

    I didn't say they didn't have a disability. I'm saying they don't need a disability car when they can obviously manage fine with their other fleet of cars.

    Just another abuser of the system.
  • I didn't say they didn't have a disability. I'm saying they don't need a disability car when they can obviously manage fine with their other fleet of cars.

    Just another abuser of the system.

    No, Lee. If they didn't have the car they would still get Disability Living Allowance which they can use to lease a car if they so wish. If they don't lease a car then they have the allowance to enable them to get around. It's a personal choice and nobodys business but their own. It is for a 3 year term and they can then hand it in for a new car or purchase it. If the car is more than a basic model then an upfront fee is payable. When the car is handed in it must be in a reasonable condition (Wear and tear) or the lessee has to pay reparation. :cool:
  • Robisere
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    To the question asking why I could not raise the money for a deposit if I worked: when I became disabled, it was not sudden. I was in a very responsible job, managing a successful workshop. An old injury caught up with me and, although I didn't know this until I met the right consultant and had pioneering, remedial surgery which lets me walk (after a fashion), 2 of my vertebrae were breaking up. The upper one was causing paralysis and numbness and I spent increasing amounts of time on sick leave. The lower one caused nerve damage which affected my bladder and bowels, which is why I now have a parastomal hernia. Eventually I collapsed, alone in the workshop trying to earn overtime on a Saturday, to make up to a very good boss for time lost. He and his son had to take me to hospital. I had been married for only a few years, both of us for the second time and our former spouses had taken each of us for a financial ride. Over the next few years we lost the terraced house we had been buying and we moved into rented housing. We had two young kids and no money. It took me 13 months to get DLA and Incapacity benefit. When I got my first Motability car, a basic Astra, it was the first time I had not bought outright. I used to rebuild Insurance write-offs (with an RAC report) during weekends, for my transport, with my own hard work. I was living in a pit village when I got the Astra: many of my family were miners. The pit was closed when the miners voted to take the money. One day, one of the miners was walking past me as I struggled to get out of the car. He waited until I was out, then said "Wish I had a car like that!"

    Well, this was one of the few who had spent all his money on booze, cars and holidays for several years, never got a job, and then when the money ran out, thought the world owed him a living. Some of the people here, remind me of that bloke.

    We moved counties eventually. Now I live in a lovely village, in a tiny Sheltered Housing bungalow, for which I pay rent. I take no Council Tax rebate or Housing Benefit, because I still have my pride and the system treats people with a disdainfull, condescendending attitude: much like some people in this forum. I went into education again and got work in Local Government. There I collapsed again, they retired me and I did some more education, at weekends and nights. I became a self-employed printer, declaring that to the DLA and changing it to what was Working DLA. Eventually we retired for good.

    I say all this to demonstrate to the Benefit-Bashers here, that they put people in one big box, without knowing anything about their lives. I sincerely hope that such people receive the Karma that their bitter and twisted views deserve. As for me, despite the tenor of my words here, I am happy. I have a lovely family and a loving wife. They are my armour against the Benefit-Bashers of this world.
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
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