Mobilty cars .....Joke

GTE_Boy

50Twuncle wrote: »

Tothepoint - do you also begrudge genuinely disabled people from claiming (and receiving) the mobility component of DLA/PIP ?
If so - you are a sick individual who I hope one day does not experience a health issue that affects your mobility

He'll get his free car then won't be?

Car_54

Nilrem wrote: »

That's the sort of reason the idea put forward by some idiots who think that the "free car" should be a specific specially built (and ironically probably far more expensive for the tax payer*) model is so stupid.
There is no single model of car on the market that meets every users needs, some people need adaptations to the foot controls (moving them to the wheel or similar), some need adaptations to the wheel, some need more leg room, or a higher/lower ride height, some need a much bigger boot, or doors.

My mother has major hip problems (caused by failed operations), she needs a large door to get in/out of a car comfortably, and preferably a higher than normal seat.
So despite them being built on the same chassis she had issues with the Astra but could get in and out of a Zafira of the same age (the Zafira seat was about an extra 6 inches off the ground, and had a higher door so she didn't have to bend to get out).


*Given it would have to have all the costs associated with a new car design (tens of millions in design and testing, and hundreds of millions in tooling/setup) with none of the advantages that the likes of the cars in the scheme have of being mass produced.

It would be infinitely more expensive for the taxpayer, as the existing scheme costs the taxpayer nothing!

The taxpayer pays the allowance (and whether he should is a valid subject for debate), but the car is leased with no subsidy.

takman

Mercdriver wrote: »

I pay every penny of tax that I am required to. Of course I (well not me, but my accountant) try to be as tax efficient as possible, but I'm not taking any money from tax payer's funds. Come to think of it neither was Jimmy Carr and he got hung out to dry. Branson has the gall to take money from the public purse and then doesn't (in the words of The Last Leg) "do his bit".

I am now an LLP holder, but all my profits are based in the UK and I pay corporation tax as well as income tax.

But taking money from the government (which is legitimately provided to his business) is the same as paying only the taxes you owe. If you disagree with government funding tax policies then you should be complaining about their policies and not the people who legitimately comply with those policies in the most money efficient way possible.

Even claiming back VAT paid for business purchases could quite easily be described as taking tax payers funds, which is something all VAT registered businesses do!.

But when we start talking about big business such as Virgin and Starbucks people seem to forget about this.

silverwhistle

Joe_Horner wrote: »

I'm not not sure my blood pressure will cope with much more of his vile views and I really don't want to end up "scrounging on the sick" thanks to a TTP induced coronary.

Thank you for your kind cooperation

Funnily enough I've not long got back from the pharmacy from picking up my Amlodipine and thought I'd take my BP. Having just been reading this thread that was probably a bad idea. Anyway, I looked out into the garden and thought nice thoughts about my GF coming round soon and took a second, better reading..

I suspect the poster you talk about has mental problems, so I'maching to know what sort of job _he_ manages to hold down...

Car_54

silverwhistle wrote: »

I suspect the poster you talk about has mental problems, so I'maching to know what sort of job _he_ manages to hold down...

UKIP candidate?

bigadaj

Silvertabby wrote: »

I haven't read every single one of these posts, so apologies if someone has already pointed this out, but there is a simple reason why many disabled people opt to pay extra in order to get something other than a bog standard Astra or Corsair.

A friend lost a leg (above the knee) and very badly damaged her real leg in an accident. In theory, she can drive any car as long as it's an automatic but, in practice, if she was limited to an Astra or Corsair it would have to be adapted with a hoist on the roof to haul her out of the too-low drivers seat! She pays the extra not because she wants a big fancy car, but because her choice was limited to vehicles with a high drivers seat, so she can get out and about without having to ask strangers to literally pull her out of the car. I'm sure she isn't the only one with this problem.

Wouldn't have thought they'd get a corsair?

Muscle750

Many on their high horse here have totally missed the point i asked why such high cost vehicles are available why cant they do with a Focus or Astra for example plus the ones with a wheelchair get a modified car for the wheelchair etc which is understood, No i wouldnt want to be disabled but as stated they want to be treated as normal people but they think a blue badge is a licence to park anywhere including pavements etc .....................or taking Doris to the knitting club

mark1959

To be fair quite a few "normal" people park where they like, in a variety of cars.

Richard53

Muscle750 wrote: »

Many on their high horse here have totally missed the point i asked why such high cost vehicles are available why cant they do with a Focus or Astra for example plus the ones with a wheelchair get a modified car for the wheelchair etc which is understood, No i wouldnt want to be disabled but as stated they want to be treated as normal people but they think a blue badge is a licence to park anywhere including pavements etc .....................or taking Doris to the knitting club

In broad terms, using the DLA to pay for a Motability car gets you a basic Focus or Astra. If you choose to make an additional upfront payment, you can upgrade to a better model. So if you see someone in a mid-range Volvo, they will have paid the extra with no additional cost to the taxpayer.


ETA: the Blue Badge allows the holder to park in certain places not available to the 'normal' driver (e.g. on certain yellow lines and in disabled spaces) but does not permit dangerous parking such as on a pavement. That person would get a ticket just like you or I would. I would agree that the Blue Badge scheme is massively abused, but bear in mind that genuine BB holders are more annoyed than most as any abuse brings the whole scheme into disrepute.

Silvertabby

“ I haven't read every single one of these posts, so apologies if someone has already pointed this out, but there is a simple reason why many disabled people opt to pay extra in order to get something other than a bog standard Astra or Corsair.

A friend lost a leg (above the knee) and very badly damaged her real leg in an accident. In theory, she can drive any car as long as it's an automatic but, in practice, if she was limited to an Astra or Corsair it would have to be adapted with a hoist on the roof to haul her out of the too-low drivers seat! She pays the extra not because she wants a big fancy car, but because her choice was limited to vehicles with a high drivers seat, so she can get out and about without having to ask strangers to literally pull her out of the car. I'm sure she isn't the only one with this problem.
Originally posted by Silvertabby ”
Wouldn't have thought they'd get a corsair?

She didn't - she paid the extra for an Audi with a nice high driving seat. I only mentioned Astra and Corsair because, according to another poster, they seem to be the first options for those who can't/won't pay any extra.