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The EU: IN or OUT?
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Just a flying visit from me to promote the petition that has already attracted the most signatures ever for a UK parliamentary petition in the space of less than 2 days.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
For those crying "bad loser" etc: For a change, I find myself agreeing with Farage: a decision of this magnitude shouldn't be made by a simple 52-48 majority of those that cast their votes. Leave has got less than 38% of the total electorate.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017
Well certainly not anytime soon!
Look,a high turnout of 72%
Majority of 52% ,yes small but over the winning line!
Its all sourgrapes they did not win!:p
I guess there are some on Brexit who have secretly been hoping this result would give firing power to fire at the EU Gang that either they bow to much more or we are truly off and off in OUR way not what they want!
If Boris does become PM i feel he may try some sort of re-negotiate trick by saying the UK has shown how serious its about leaving but there is still time to reconsider OUR proposals! Except them and what the Germans want of reform and put it again to the electorate as a new mandate to Govern rather than a referendum so a new government can get on with the mandate that includes the new proposal!
I am sure that Labour may try a trick for a snapshot election as the anti leave party ?
Remember this whole vote is a joke anyway as its not legally-binding ,just an ADVISORY of what the people feel and want! So i am sure politicians will find holes to exploit to get their agenda,ie (Boris not leaving in full but as an associate member of the EU for trade and regulated migration/freedom of movement + loopholes in many areas).Basically watered down agreement of being a full member!:eek:0 -
If only backpeddling was an olympic event...'We don't need to be smarter than the rest; we need to be more disciplined than the rest.' - WB0
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Democracy is just sooooo unfair.0
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Funny how hardly anyone was demanding such rules before the result was known.
The petition was started in May based on the end date and yet it only went over the 100,000 threshold yesterday.0 -
Just a flying visit from me to promote the petition that has already attracted the most signatures ever for a UK parliamentary petition in the space of less than 2 days.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215
For those crying "bad loser" etc: For a change, I find myself agreeing with Farage: a decision of this magnitude shouldn't be made by a simple 52-48 majority of those that cast their votes. Leave has got less than 38% of the total electorate.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017
wow cry much?
I don't recall you bemoaning the tight poll forecast in favor of remain, oh no had that have materialised their would be no petition from you would there?
Perhaps us Brexit voters should have our own petition with
1 million more signatures.
It's democracy.Earn, Save and Achieve0 -
I have to laugh at some of the things being thrown around and which shows our education system to be severely lacking.
Can we still be in Eurovision?
Can we still buy a euromillions lottery ticket?
Can we still be in European football?
Just what do they think the EU is?0 -
The turnout question seems particularly unsportsman like, frankly. 72% of the electorate voted - a fair number compared to recent national elections and well above local councils. 75% is a good anchor, sure, but to edge it up by 3% looks like they're just trying to shift the goal posts.
60% on 75% turnout would probably ensure two or three votes before this is settled. Even if the government were to introduce such rules on future referendums, as written it doesn't actually present a mechanism to have another one now, does it?
Maybe the person who made the petition did so in the heat of the moment, but how can anybody really think it would be appropriate to have a retroactive rule for this one referendum. It even mentions "remain" & "leave", so it's not a general principle argument.This is everybody's fault but mine.0 -
typistretired wrote: »Neither side were clear with their facts! My family made up our minds when Cameron came back from his EU meeting with no real concessions and still bleated on about how good the EU were. Ask the steelworkers how they felt about allowing prices for steel being controlled by the EU. America have shown the way by making sure Chinese steel is priced out of their market
If you want facts I'd consult a range of books rather than rely on snake oil salesmen masquerading as public servants (MP's).
Your are spot on, he promised fundamental reform, failed to get it then tried to con us into thinking he had and when that didn't work tried to scare us to death.
Well done for seeing through it.Earn, Save and Achieve0 -
Lets face it,there was absolutely no concessions being made when cameron went for his deal!
Merkel made her immigration statement.
It was like living in a stalinist state!
There was no other choice but leave!
I am no rebel at all but how much were you supposed to take?0
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