The EU: IN or OUT?

atush

Regardless of whether or not it is best to be in or out, the suggestion that being out equates to zenophobia and isolation is offensive, and puerile.

I find Nigel zenophobic, offensive and puerile.

Like the Donald, i'd vote against him whatever he proposed.

uk1

atush wrote: »

I find Nigel zenophobic, offensive and puerile.

Like the Donald, i'd vote against him whatever he proposed.

I cannot beieve that someone who I think believes that they are intelligent and who says they have two homes and has done well, reduces this extremely important decision to "voting against Nigel whatever he proposed".

Jeff

teddysmum

Well Osborne is back to threats : If we go out he says he'll put up income tax and fuel duty,with reductions in spending on NHS and police, in an emergency budget.


I don't think he'll be about long enough to implement his ideas, though.

uk1

teddysmum wrote: »

Well Osborne is back to threats : If we go out he says he'll put up income tax and fuel duty,with reductions in spending on NHS and police, in an emergency budget.


I don't think he'll be about long enough to implement his ideas, though.

He has a working majority of around 12. He has been told by the Labour party and by over 50 conservative MPs he will not get such a budget through parliament.

It is all nonsense. The so called projected recession is 0.4%. The Last thing you do if you are sensible at the start of a recession is increase taxes and cut spending unless your aim is to accelerate the recession.

It seems to be unravelling for them.

Jeff

chockydavid1983

Unfortunately there's a lot of people asking for info but the truth is it doesn't exist- if it did we'd have heard it by now.

cashbackproblems

OUT. No more immigrants and no more EU burdens, lets be free, make our own trade deals for our benfit and prosper. Being such a large consumer of everything gives us negotiating power

ElsieMonkey

What I find hard to understand is how people are falling for all the scaremongering predictions. If such a dangerous outcome was a certainty, or even likely, why did Cameron offer the referendum at all? (To win an election and the votes he was losing to UKIP at the time most probably).

My point is, I do not believe (maybe naively) that any British government would be so reckless with its people's future and (less naively) their own personal wealth as individuals (and this last point is why they want to maintain the status quo).

What Osborne is coming out with today (emergency budget if we exit) is flabbergasting and utterly disgraceful. If the Leave campaign is right, what an utter disgrace that Cameron offered the referendum to begin with knowing that it would put everything so disastrously at risk - they should be held accountable. And if they're wrong, they are also a disgrace for the level of pure unadulterated scaremongering and bullying tactics they have employed and are subjecting their electorate to.

#VOTELEAVE

zolablue25

If all of the predictions/promises from the "Leave" campaign were to come true we would be living in Utopia. A land of milk and honey. Unfortunately, this is highly unlikely - in the same way that the full scale doom and gloom touted by the "Remain" camp is likely to be overblown.

The truth, therefore, is likely to lay somehwere in between. A truth that, unfortunately, means that this is not as straightforward a decision as many supporters (of both sides) would have us believe. I guess if it were straightforward there wouldn't even be a debate.

Whatever the result some things will probably be better and others worse than if the "other side" had won and we'll just have to make the best of it. The thing I'm most looking forward to is getting the whole thing over and done with. Referendum fatigue much.

movilogo

Out of course

The country is already full. With more unlimited immigration salary will drop dead and our kids can't ever buy a house!

More so, if rich people + politicans advise to stay in EU, then it must be good for them only So for mortals like me, being out is better option.

zolablue25

ElsieMonkey wrote: »

My point is, I do not believe (maybe naively) that any British government would be so reckless with its people's future and (less naively) their own personal wealth as individuals (and this last point is why they want to maintain the status quo).

Surely, it is the job of the Government to represent the views of the people. If the people wish to leave the EU then it is the government's job to facilitate this and, only by holding a referendum will the government know for sure what the people's will is.

It is then the job of the government to lay out the possible risks for voting either way. If the people then decide that they are lying or simply wish to ignore the warnings then you can't turn around and blame the goevrnment for offering you the choice.