The EU: IN or OUT?

teddysmum

Domayne wrote: »

Where is the option for 'who cares'?
Personally I won't be voting because I really don't care either way.

You'd be moaning if told you couldn't vote.


I can't believe that someone cares so little about the future of themselves and ,even more important, children and grandchildren, (but you probably don't have any).

moneyfoolish

BananaRepublic wrote: »

An interesting thought. The UK would be a huge loss to the EU given that we are one of the big contributors. And were we to break away and thrive, others might follow i'm surprised they gave us such pitiful concessions. I could imagine a leave vote, followed by a real offer of an associated membership, and a second vote on that.

I still think we will stay.

Indeed. Didn't I see somewhere that only Germany and UK put more money in than they get out? If so, Germany will be less than pleased if the UK leaves and as Germany seems to virtually run the EU then there may well be some "incentives" for the UK to stay in if they think we will leave.

gardner1

savings_my_hobby wrote: »

Well, I have said all along there will be a "rabbit in the hat" to come in the last week, mark my words if the polls indicate brexit the good ol' folks from the EU will throw us a bone.

My guess is a Brussels controlled emergency immigration brake.

"Brussels controlled emergency immigration brake"

still wouldn't change my vote

VOTE LEAVE

bigfreddiel

Glen_Clark wrote: »

Its a secret ballot and if even thats not enough most are not posting under their own names.

It's not secret, elections aren't secret either. Haven't you ever noticed the number they note down next to your name on the list when they tick you off the list. It's a one up number from. The ballot slip.

It can all be checked later if necessary.

Cheers fj

bigfreddiel

teddysmum wrote: »

You'd be moaning if told you couldn't vote.


I can't believe that someone cares so little about the future of themselves and ,even more important, children and grandchildren, (but you probably don't have any).

Too right, he'll be moaning after the vote regardless of the result

jimjames

Domayne wrote: »

Where is the option for 'who cares'?
Personally I won't be voting because I really don't care either way.

You don't care about economy crashing? Don't care about less money for NHS and public services? Don't care about immigration?

Ultimately I think if you're not voting either way you don't care about your country.

kingrulzuk

Domayne wrote: »

Where is the option for 'who cares'?
Personally I won't be voting because I really don't care either way.

Its best you don't vote

PenguinJim

jimjames wrote: »

Ultimately I think if you're not voting either way you don't care about your country.

I've ended somewhat in the middle, so I'm purposely voting neither way (or both ways - take your pick!).

I do care what happens. I just don't have enough information to make a truly informed decision. On the face of it, it does look like it's bad for the majority of Britons (as well as the majority of non-Britons) if we leave.

But then again, if the global crises truly are beyond fixing, if the world is genuinely, unalterably doomed, then pulling up the drawbridge and embracing xenophobia and isolation do seem to have their medium-term merits. The short-term benefits of staying wouldn't count for much, and the long-term benefits of staying would be irrelevant post-apocalypse.

BananaRepublic

PenguinJim wrote: »

I've ended somewhat in the middle, so I'm purposely voting neither way (or both ways - take your pick!).

I do care what happens. I just don't have enough information to make a truly informed decision. On the face of it, it does look like it's bad for the majority of Britons (as well as the majority of non-Britons) if we leave.

But then again, if the global crises truly are beyond fixing, if the world is genuinely, unalterably doomed, then pulling up the drawbridge and embracing xenophobia and isolation do seem to have their medium-term merits. The short-term benefits of staying wouldn't count for much, and the long-term benefits of staying would be irrelevant post-apocalypse.

Regardless of whether or not it is best to be in or out, the suggestion that being out equates to zenophobia and isolation is offensive, and puerile.

I do agree that we do not have enough unbiased objective information. One informed commentator said he though in was best, but out would not be the disaster predicted. But each side comes out with the same hyperbole, such that we are becoming immune to it.

kingrulzuk

PenguinJim wrote: »

I just don't have enough information to make a truly informed decision.

What info are you looking for?