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  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Wouldn't most people, prefer to work part time if money was not an issue, whether they had kids or not?

    I love my job but if I could do it only 3 days a week and have 4 days to myself, that would be great!

    Indeed, I believe it is the case for the vast majority but not all. Some people truly get such satisfaction from their job, they wouldn't consider reducing their hours even if they could afford it, but I don't think there are many working mums fitting in that category.
  • onlyroz
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    Wouldn't most people, prefer to work part time if money was not an issue, whether they had kids or not?

    I love my job but if I could do it only 3 days a week and have 4 days to myself, that would be great!
    There are very few people who genuinely don't have to work at all. For most there is a decision to be made over how much you like the job and how much difference the extra money would make to the household. Sure, if we were awash with money then we would go down to 3 days a week, but we are not. I enjoy my job and it enables us to have 2-3 holidays a year. Our employers are both flexible and let us arrange our hours so that we only need childcare three days a week.

    However there is still an attitude displayed on this thread that assumes mums only work under sufferance and they all secretly desire nothing more than to stay home and manage the household. If you keep on telling women that this is all they should be aspiring to turn they will continue to believe it is true.
  • pigpen
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    There are very cautious children - ie that simply don't ever have accidents (unless you count falling over and bashing their knee - something entirely their own fault). Any other accidents wouldn't be down to the child themselves.

    Ask my mother - she had one like it:rotfl::hello::). She probably counts as the only mother I know that never ever had to take her daughter to the medics for injury from accidents.

    So I can readily believe that the daughters accident was caused by someone else's carelessness.


    More cautious children do exist, or more fortunate or robust ;) but that doesnt automaticaly mean accidents they have are caused by someone else!!

    DD1 .. naturally cautious.. laid herself out cold opening the school gate! She also fell and smashed her glasses into her face requiring treatment and a week off school! She trapped her finger in a gate at school too requiring xrays. more recently she slipped on the stairs and fractured her wrist.

    I was 14 before my first trip to A&E.. but I was just lucky ;)
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  • Andypandyboy
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    onlyroz wrote: »
    There are very few people who genuinely don't have to work at all. For most there is a decision to be made over how much you like the job and how much difference the extra money would make to the household. Sure, if we were awash with money then we would go down to 3 days a week, but we are not. I enjoy my job and it enables us to have 2-3 holidays a year. Our employers are both flexible and let us arrange our hours so that we only need childcare three days a week.

    However there is still an attitude displayed on this thread that assumes mums only work under sufferance and they all secretly desire nothing more than to stay home and manage the household. If you keep on telling women that this is all they should be aspiring to turn they will continue to believe it is true.

    So if that is what they aspire to it is of lower worth than being at work whilst your children are small? That is what I infer from your statement.
  • onlyroz wrote: »
    There are very few people who genuinely don't have to work at all. For most there is a decision to be made over how much you like the job and how much difference the extra money would make to the household. Sure, if we were awash with money then we would go down to 3 days a week, but we are not. I enjoy my job and it enables us to have 2-3 holidays a year. Our employers are both flexible and let us arrange our hours so that we only need childcare three days a week.

    However there is still an attitude displayed on this thread that assumes mums only work under sufferance and they all secretly desire nothing more than to stay home and manage the household. If you keep on telling women that this is all they should be aspiring to turn they will continue to believe it is true.

    As always you are inflicting your own agenda/paranoia and misinterpreting what's been written, because you feel that females are hard done by. smiley-rolleyes010.gif
    No-one else has said that all women should be apron-clad housewives getting scones out of the oven. Even Amish women usually have to do some sort of paid work to support the family income!

    What I have said, and I stand by it 100%, is that the child/ren's needs should come first, and that people who squabble over who's going to look after the children, as though their baby is a mere inconvenience to the parents careers, really shouldn't have children in the first place.
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  • moneyistooshorttomention
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    edited 19 March 2016 at 12:51PM
    pigpen wrote: »
    More cautious children do exist, or more fortunate or robust ;) but that doesnt automaticaly mean accidents they have are caused by someone else!!

    DD1 .. naturally cautious.. laid herself out cold opening the school gate! She also fell and smashed her glasses into her face requiring treatment and a week off school! She trapped her finger in a gate at school too requiring xrays. more recently she slipped on the stairs and fractured her wrist.

    I was 14 before my first trip to A&E.. but I was just lucky ;)


    I'm told it makes me very lucky that I got to early 60s without a visit to A & E ever on my own behalf because of an accident. Last year saw me have a minor accident (trip on badly-done pavement - ie down to the local Council in effect and am now avoiding that section of pavement because I tripped on it twice). This year saw me back in one again - down to an accident caused by someone else.

    So - early 60s and never yet been to A & E due to my own fault <crosses fingers/knocks on wood>. Yep....very cautious....ultra-cautious at a "physical" level (just as well really - being the one to "have on side" if someone gets up to any "bad behaviour" of any description) and I'm definitely not cautious at tackling "offenders" LOL.
  • onlyroz
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    So if that is what they aspire to it is of lower worth than being at work whilst your children are small? That is what I infer from your statement.
    Stay at home if you want. Go to work if you want. But don't infer that women who work are only doing it under sufferance and would be better off at home.
  • theoretica
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    Just because you love someone very much doesn't mean you are not going to hurt them unintentionally, or can and will provide all they need. But actually saying you think your baby is better off with professionals some of the time seems taboo when they are young. Some nurseries are great and some far from it, but some parents are better than others too.
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  • Kaye1
    Kaye1 Posts: 538 Forumite
    I have found this thread very interesting.

    I am, at the moment, a SAHM by choice. I wanted to look after my own children. I am lucky enough to be able to slot back into my profession without too much trouble. (I still get agencies ringing me and offering me work because I have the qualifications they are after.) I know working Mums get some stick- I have seen it myself.

    Equally, SAHM get stick, but in a different way. I don't mind helping out at school- fund raising events and I do a good amount of the gardening. However, I am quite quiet and not one of the 'in-crowd.' So although I am around a fair bit, most of the people at school don't really 'know' me very well.

    Here are some personal examples:

    I have been called a 'slummy Mummy,' by another parent. Why? Well, that day, we didn't have much on. So when I was asked what I was going to do with my day, I just replied that we would probably just potter around the garden. It seemed to outrage her that I didn't have anything to rush too. We would be working on the veg patch so actually, my toddler would love it. She noted that she 'couldn't spend her time lazing around.'

    One of the govenors asked me to write a letter about something for the school. I was happy to do this. The chair of govenors had overheard and said, 'Yes, you could do this as you haven't got a job, have you? Would you like me to proof read the letter and check your spelling afterwards?' (In the most condescending tone I have ever heard!)

    I said I would be fine, but thanked him anyway. He persisted, saying that he didn't want any mistakes in the letter.

    As the letter was from me, as a parent, actually, the letter had nothing to do with him.

    I quietly mentioned that as I had a degree in English and spent 12 years teaching English, while his offer was kind, I would probably be ok. His reply? 'Well, why haven't you got a job yet?' (The governor who asked me to write the letter knew I used to be a teacher- but very few other people do.)

    Now by this time, I was getting annoyed- so I said, 'Well as my husband earns so much money, I don't even need to think about a job.' (THIS IS NOT TRUE!! He was just getting on my wick by then.) He often refers to me not having a job.

    I am regularly asked when I am going to put my child in pre-school and get a job. I should say I am asked this at least once a month. I now just make a joke of it.

    Actually, we run our own business from home and I do a lot of work when I have put the children to bed. But they don't know this!

    My long-winded point is this- surely the point of feminism is to have the choice? I chose to stay at home. Women have the option to go to work- it wasn't that long ago that we were excluded from a lot of jobs.

    Don't get me wrong- I'm not complaining and I am not really bothered by what these people say; but people are quick to judge whatever side of the childcare fence you are on!;)
  • Jagraf
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    kaye1 - I think it's because so many parents need to justify the way they brought up their children by slating anyone who did it differently. i went back to work full time and you stay at home - but I bet our kids are equally loved, nurtured and cared for.

    I think some parents feel threatened by other parents who are happy with their decisions.

    None of us are experts in other peoples children and need to just tend to their own.
    Never again will the wolf get so close to my door :eek:
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