If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

prosaver wrote: »

we could grow are own like the old days, and it would be more ECO friendly, unemployment will go down too :beer:

Why do we need to leave the EU to grow our own food?

antrobus

wotsthat wrote: »

The U.S. doesn't require parliament to impose laws but they expect products they import to meet their standards over which the UK has no say.

Vice versa it's the same. Their products have to meet European standards over which they have no say.

If we leave then the UK can implement her own standards and norms but I'd be surprised if they deviated at all from current European standards because (a) there's nothing wrong with them and (b) adopting EU standards which are already implemented would be the simplest and most pragmatic way to maintain trade post exit.

Of course, as EU standards changed in the future (with no negotiation with the UK) you'd find the UK adopted the new standard anyway.

Absolutely the last reason to leave should be because we want to implement completely different standards which make trade with Europe more difficult. For what? To import a load of crappy food from America.

Absolutely.

The subject matter of any 'trade agreement' is largely agreeing on standards. That's why they take so bl0Ody long to negotiate. It only takes five minutes to agree to mutually drop tarriffs on anything.

But I think you're right, we will end up with EU standards whether we're in or we're out. The Canadians were obliged to accept EU GI rules in CETA.

Generali

prosaver wrote: »

we could grow are own like the old days, and it would be more ECO friendly, unemployment will go down too :beer:

Good stuff! We're getting to what a Brexit plan might look like. Grow your own food because you can't buy it any more.

What other options are available to Brexitiers?

wotsthat

prosaver wrote: »

we can force them do it or no dole ..we are the law makers now no windging EU on our backs. (if we leave)
sounds good:beer:

There's nothing to stop HMG introducing or strengthening benefit sanctions now.

prosaver

I wonder if cameron was chuffed ...nnooooooooooooooo
Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg come out of retirement to back David Cameron's EU deal

ha ha

antrobus

Generali wrote: »

Good stuff! We're getting to what a Brexit plan might look like. Grow your own food because you can't buy it any more....

Can't we just get some peasants to do it for us? We have at least one volunteer in the form of prosaver. Personally I don't fancy spending twelve hours a day working in a muddy field, but if he's willing to do it, I ain't gonna argue.

prosaver

wotsthat wrote: »

Why do we need to leave the EU to grow our own food?

dont be silly
this is silly too, sound like fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I05uOB5DOFw

:beer:

Generali

antrobus wrote: »

Can't we just get some peasants to do it for us? We have at least one volunteer in the form of prosaver. Personally I don't fancy spending twelve hours a day working in a muddy field, but if he's willing to do it, I ain't gonna argue.

After the Brexit you can only import the top sort. You'll need to pick your own veggies.

mrginge

antrobus wrote: »

EU members could say the same thing about the UK.



By that same measure the EU represents either the biggest economy in the world, or the second biggest if we weren't in it. If they are going to be desperate to trade with us because we're no. 5, just think how more desperate we will be to trade with them, because they're no. 2.

Well, except for the fact that we are free to also negotiate alternative arrangements with no's 1,3 and 4.
Whereas they are only negotiating with us.
Do you understand the concept of competition?

It would be the UK that would be deciding on the level of import tarrifs post-Brexit, so if "Sticking a 10% import tariff on VWs" would be a "silly move", it would be our silly move

I think I confused you. I was referring to a comment I saw yesterday, that there is effectively a 10% surcharge for non-eu countries who wish to buy cars from EU countries.

What's more nations do trade deals with other nations, not specific companies, and besides where the fox do you think Fords come from? As far as I'm aware Ford Fiestas roll off the production line in Cologne. Granted, some of the components are from the UK, but I'm pretty sure that Cologne is in Germany, and that any 10% import duty on VWs will also apply to Fords. (And Huyndais and Kias as well, even if they do come from Slovakia and the Czech republic)

My word, aren't you a little firecracker. can you grasp this basic principle -

We can buy things from, sell things to, and negotiate either from individual companies or where appropriate, countries as a whole!

Heaven forbid, we could actually say to a U.S. Company that also operates in the EU - please come and build a factory in the UK so you have direct access to our market and you won't have to charge us EU tariffs and we will be much more likely to buy your products.

!!!!!! what a revolutionary concept!

Wow, we could even undercut corporation tax rates to make it even more beneficial!
Or we could bung them a load of cash if we wanted, safe in the knowledge that we weren't falling foul of any convoluted EU grant rules that many other EU countries would just be ignoring anyway.

My god, the sheer lunacy of being able to decide things for ourselves.

Yea, right. The outcome of the recent UK-EU negotiations has just proved that, hasn't it.

That was a political negotiation mired in each country's own agenda. A trade negotiation would be between the EU as a whole and the UK, not 28 individual countries. If anything, that demonstrates how little influence the UK has as part of the EU.

mayonnaise

setmefree2 wrote: »

Yes Please GO!

For a moment I thought Nigel had grown a ponytail.