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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    :rotfl:I struggled with the right word - I'm pretty sure migrant isn't PC

    Well the Wikipedia page on the 'Demography of Wales' refers to "immigrants" born in England, so you'd probably get away with it. Besides, they get called much worse in Wales.:)
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Generali wrote: »
    Hmm. Where is your dinner going to come from? The UK makes most of the meat and milk she consumes but very few veggies.
    we could grow are own like the old days, and it would be more ECO friendly, unemployment will go down too :beer:
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    The pound extends its slide........
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    prosaver wrote: »
    we import more goods from the EU, than export,
    well go elsewhere and then the EU will
    defiantly go bankrupt.

    I like that; "defiantly go bankrupt". To boldly go where no economic union has gone before.
  • N1AK
    N1AK Posts: 2,903 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I'd agree. The question is how many of the voting base have been affected in some way by immigration (and are concerned) compared to the numbers who perceive there is a problem with immigration (when they don't actually have any experience).

    There aren't hordes of migrants trying to price me or my family out of housing where I live.

    My old uni mate who lives in Lincoln says the place has changed completely, due to migration.

    I can't tell him his concerns are not valid, can I?

    Migrants in the UK aren't hordes, and they aren't trying to price anyone out of anything.

    What is his concern? If it's that migrant hordes are trying to force him from his home then yes I'd suggest you encourage him to seek professional help. If his concern is that the large influx of migrants into Lincoln is outstripping demand for property then I would suggest you highlight that the work they're coming for needs doing, and that if it wasn't migrants then you'd have an influx of nationals (or food not being picked) who'd probably need to pay more and want to live in lower occupancy dwellings likely increasing the cost of housing even further. Though that's just me, and the fact I wouldn't use such language to describe people striving for work probably makes me an "idiot lefty" as certain members of the anti-foreign lobby would put it.
    Having a signature removed for mentioning the removal of a previous signature. Blackwhite bellyfeel double plus good...
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    antrobus wrote: »
    I like that; "defiantly go bankrupt". To boldly go where no economic union has gone before.
    I wonder then if Neil Kinnock and his family will still get the big EU pension, i bet they are cra.pping themselfs
    (well hes got his lords money to fall back on:mad:)
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    Hmm. Where is your dinner going to come from? The UK makes most of the meat and milk she consumes but very few veggies.

    What veg is grown is picked by foreigners and still will be whatever the result.

    Brits don't pick.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    The pound extends its slide........
    the good and the bad
    Readers Question: What are the main reasons for the decline of the pound, and what are the costs and benefits of a low pound?
    The decline of the Pound is due to:
    • Cuts in interest rates
    • Declining economy – causing expectation of lower interest rates
    • ‘Technical positions’ dealers selling Pounds to get rid of surplus positions.
    • see more reasons
    A falling Pound is often looked upon with a sense of shame. A falling pound indicates a weak economy and weak purchasing power; but, a falling pound can give benefits, especially in a recession.
    Benefits of Low Pound

    • Cheaper exports. A falling pound improves the competitiveness of UK exporters. (Although, exports are an increasingly small % of the economy – manufacturing accounts for 18% of GDP)
    • Increases demand for domestic products. Imports are more expensive, therefore consumers are more likely to buy UK goods which increases UK aggregate demand.
    • A low Pound is beneficial in times of a recession, because it is helping to increase Aggregate Demand. In 1992, when the UK left the ERM, the pound depreciated and it helped the economy recover.
    • In theory the current account deficit should improve as the value of exports rises relative to the value of imports.
    Costs of A Low Pound

    • Expensive for UK tourists abroad. Trips to Europe become more expensive. Imported goods become more expensive. Firms who import raw materials will see higher costs
    • Inflation. Falling pound can cause inflation because imports are more expensive and AD rises. But, inflation is falling anyway because of the recession.
    • Less incentive to cut costs. It is argued depreciation can make exporters have less incentive to cut costs.
    Basically, in a recession a falling pound is helpful, at least for the short term. The strong Yen and strong Euro are definitely causing serious problems for the Japanese and German economies.
    I don’t worry about a falling Pound at moment.
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    galloway_3578998b.jpg

    Yes Please GO!
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »
    What veg is grown is picked by foreigners and still will be whatever the result.

    Brits don't pick.
    we can force them do it or no dole ..we are the law makers now no windging EU on our backs. (if we leave)
    sounds good:beer:
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
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