If we vote for Brexit what happens

prosaver

setmefree2 wrote: »

And you are perfectly entitled to do so - but don't say you weren't warned

do you really trust what they say when they were wrong about us not changing to the euro currency, come on, be honest?

setmefree2

prosaver wrote: »

do you really trust what they say when they were wrong about us not changing to the euro currency, come on, be honest?

Imho the impact will be a massive negative on the UK economy.

And for what exactly????

zarf2007

setmefree2 wrote: »

Here in London the state schools are excellent - so yes lots of teachers seem to be able to handle this.

By the way, most foreign" kids seem to have excellent English tbh....

yeah sure....first hand experience have you? I thought not....

and for the record I don't think that the UK would be in this mess if 'free movement' actually worked as it should. Noone has anything against skilled workers coming from France or Germany or any other EU country that will likely have a similar number of skilled UK workers migrating there.

On the other hand, how many UK workers have upped sticks and now live in Romania or Bulgaria?

Sapphire

N1AK wrote: »

A Muslim nation in the Evangelical Union unthinkable!... Wait, you mean that isn't what it stands for?

At least we don't have to dig too deep to see what your real motivation is.

I beg your pardon??? Motivation for what, exactly?

(Cue remarks re. racists, facists, bigots ad nauseum.)

:laugh:

N1AK

CLAPTON wrote: »

people who raise concerns about overcrowded schools, NHS facilities and housing etc and routinely described as racist little englanders.

But are they called racist for raising those concerns? If it happens so routinely then I'm sure you won't have to look to far to find a few examples to demonstrate it. You can be concerned about any and all of those things without being racist, though equally any and all of those views may be driven by racism or acceptable alternatives to justify a position instead of admitting overt racism.

prosaver

setmefree2 wrote: »

Imho the impact will be a massive negative on the UK economy.

And for what exactly????

so we can make up our own laws and not be vetoed byall other countries,
its like the eurovision contest....
the UK,
nul points....

Moby

setmefree2 wrote: »

In the long term......we'll all be dead......

I can only vote on the here and now.

Apart from Clapton......he'll be on here telling me that I am a terrorist sympathiser until well after I've actually croaked it I'm sure! :eek:

Generali

Moby wrote: »

I think you over estimate Cameron's ability to resist federation long term. It's what I want anyway. I've been a bit wrong about Cameron......I always thought he didn't believe in anything but from what I saw on Marr's sofa on Sunday .....he's actually true believer in the European project!:)
I'll be happy to say how wonderful he is over the next few months!

I realise that it's hard to underestimate your hatred of Mr Cameron but you do realise that he's going to quit in a couple of years, right? There isn't a 'long term' for him. Just getting the job done and then quitting some time in late 2018 at a guess.

I think Ms May is the best bet for a successor. Not the most likely outcome but at odds of 25-2 (13.5 in the new money) I think she's a cracking bet.

CLAPTON

N1AK wrote: »

But are they called racist for raising those concerns? If it happens so routinely then I'm sure you won't have to look to far to find a few examples to demonstrate it. You can be concerned about any and all of those things without being racist, though equally any and all of those views may be driven by racism or acceptable alternatives to justify a position instead of admitting overt racism.

Indeed that is so : there are things that are true and it also the case that people can use those truth for racist or non racist reasons (or a mixture of both)
hence we refer to the PC brigade that hdo untold harm by refusing to accept the truths and avoid all discussion by screaming racism.
In any event, I would prefer the 'right' result rather than a pure motive: too many death from pure motives

N1AK

Sapphire wrote: »

I beg your pardon??? Motivation for what, exactly?

(Cue remarks re. racists, facists, bigots ad nauseum.)

:laugh:

You can beg all you like but you'll have to make considerable improvement before you'll get it. Firstly I wouldn't refer to you with plurals, thank god. Secondly facists isn't a word. Thirdly, I'm confident that I could sum you up succinctly enough that the only thing inducing nausea would be the quality of your writing.

In this case I was referring to your motivation for not wanting Turkey to be a member of the EU; I had hoped even you could piece that together given that you just referred to it.