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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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mayonnaise wrote: »When you're out, you're out.
I believe brexit might actually be a strenghtening factor for the rest of the EU. When the UK goes into deep recession after exiting the largest free trade zone in the world, other EU nations will think twice about following the same path.
Will Germans wish to continue subsidising the majority of the rest?0 -
Higher level of education seems to correlate reasonably strongly with being more likely to vote Remain, not altogether surprisingly, as people with a higher level of education would be doing better economically on average than those who aren't.
that is probably true
but then higher education was well correlated with wanting to join the euro : most have now changed their mind.0 -
To who or what was their anger directed at?
Curious.
I think it was more confusion than anger. They just don't understand why any country would want to leave the EU.
The German monitor had spend 3 months in Brighton perfecting her English and saw the future of travel to the UK being a little more difficult. That of course we can not tell.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
The opposite.
Free of the EU risk and cost bear trap we will be even more of a safe haven for investors.
Interesting. Investors do not like uncertainty.
We are presently in a period of VERY HIGH uncertainty, after the referendum if we Brexit there will be a period, 2 years perhaps as specified by the Treaty, when there will be HIGH uncertainty.
It does not matter which side of the Brexit argument anyone is surely that can be agreed.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
If we see Brexit should we then have a GE, perhaps next spring, where each party would put forward its postion for dealing with Brexit?
Good idea but we can't sit on our hands for 9 months before beginning the exit negotiations.
Maybe we should have your idea instead of a referendum. Too late now.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
Looking at the situation in continental Europe now (just check France, for example, and the failing economies of the Eurozone countries), I just don't think we can carry on like this. It will bring bankruptcy and strife to all the nations of Europe. The whole thing must be rethought and brought back to a commercial alliance, not the craziness of 'ever-greater political union', with completely open borders in a dangerous political situation. It is clearly not going to work as it stands – that's becoming as clear as daylight.
It is in no European country's interest for this situation to continue.
Vote Leave.
Where I sit on the other side of the Chanel, I see a Britain struggling economically and with very poor infrastructure, isn't that the reason you want to leave the EU?There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
Where I sit on the other side of the Chanel, I see a Britain struggling economically and with very poor infrastructure, isn't that the reason you want to leave the EU?
No, I'm amazed you really think that.
The main reasons why people will vote brexit are
-to regain supremacy of the UK parliament to make UK laws
-to be able to vote out our government / MP if we don't like those laws
-to regain control of immigration
-to reduce EU bureaucracy
-to be able to kick foreign killers rapists etc out of the country
-to able to trade with all the countries of the world on mutually agreeable terms
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mayonnaise wrote: »When you're out, you're out.
I believe brexit might actually be a strenghtening factor for the rest of the EU. When the UK goes into deep recession after exiting the largest free trade zone in the world, other EU nations will think twice about following the same path.
You've been speaking to Hamish_Mctavish haven't you.
1.7 million job losses, 500,000 repossessions. That was days ago and I'm still waiting for an answer on how that's going to happen when the worst possible forecast shows ~800,000 job losses and the height of the last recession was ~150,000 repossessions over 3 years.
If we vote to leave, if we have a recession, it will be much smaller than the 2008 financial crash - that was global.
It won't pan out the way you and Hamish think it will. It won't even pan out how HM Treasury think it will (that was a forecast up to 2030!!! That would be like someone in the year 2000 predicting the financial crash, they never did). Under normal circumstances they would be laughed at for making such a forecast. We might get a recession but it will not be armageddon as you claim. If we do get a recession it could well be the incident that tips the Eruozone over the edge, so it's in everyones interest to get those trade deals sorted.0 -
The current referendum is very dangerous. It risks places us outside of the EU without a plan.
Our Government should have planned the referendum in two stages, the first being a clear choice of possible options under an AV system, the second being a vote on the chosen option or remain.
Exactly. The posters on here clearly don't agree on what the UK would look like or what deal we would pursue after a leave vote. There is no plan to vote for because the leave campaign have not proposed one. The reason they have not proposed one is obvious: they know it will split their vote when voters realise they won't be getting what they think they are voting for.
So that is why the leave campaign has to operate by simply banging on about theoretical stuff and calling the remain campaign fear mongers. They have no other alternative, they have no positive plan to show anyone. They made some fickle attempt to show a plan yesterday but it was basically much the same and amounts to vague hand waving of "control immigration, take back power".0 -
Exactly. The posters on here clearly don't agree on what the UK would look like or what deal we would pursue after a leave vote. There is no plan to vote for because the leave campaign have not proposed one. The reason they have not proposed one is obvious: they know it will split their vote when voters realise they won't be getting what they think they are voting for.
So that is why the leave campaign has to operate by simply banging on about theoretical stuff and calling the remain campaign fear mongers. They have no other alternative, they have no positive plan to show anyone. They made some fickle attempt to show a plan yesterday but it was basically much the same and amounts to vague hand waving of "control immigration, take back power".
the plan is to regain democratic control
what do you find so difficult to understand about that?0
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