If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

Official unemployment rates, especially in Southern Europe, can be taken with a massive pinch of salt. Cash in hand is the norm.

That's a dismissive statement. That ignores the facts totally. You sound like someone working in Brussels. Airbrush reality out of the picture.

Mortgagefreeman

Thrugelmir wrote: »

That's a dismissive statement. That ignores the facts totally. You sound like someone working in Brussels. Airbrush reality out of the picture.

Didn't he say he was involved in EU Directive EC 2232/96 concerning Pot Noodles?

Mortgagefreeman

StevieJ wrote: »

A good article.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/13/brexit-bullies-turning-on-those-sorting-out-their-mess

'If your losing the debate shout racist and you win'

kabayiri

The Guardian article was empty of facts and premature.

Why is anybody in a rush to prejudge the negotiations? We have a GE to get through first.

If people don't like May's negotiating approach they can vote for Corbyn or Farron. It's that simple.

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

gfplux wrote: »

Don't worry they are only THINKING of leaving. Anyway they probably are all foreigners!
http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450418721/Almost-three-quarters-of-tech-workers-thinking-of-leaving-UK-after-Brexit
Some posters on this thread think that the anger and ?? they show has nothing to do with how "foreigners" feel about working in, or leaving the UK.
One of the objective of Brexiters was to reduce the number of foreigners in Britain. Well you may get your wish.

Today As Macron become President he may persuade some or all those French living in London to come home.
Result say the Brexiters.

No man is an island, but Brexiters think they are.

"Thinking", eh?
Is that like I am thinking of changing my holiday destination to Bermuda this year?

When you posted a link quoting the same source earlier in the week someone posted this:

Amazon is boosting its research and development (R&D) operations in the UK with the launch of a Development Centre site in Cambridge to supplement the ones currently operating in Edinburgh and London.
The 60,000 square foot centre will have capacity for over 400 employees, consisting of machine learning scientists, knowledge engineers, data scientists, mathematical modellers, speech scientists and software engineers.

http://www.silicon.co.uk/e-innovation/amazon-cambridge-development-centre-211031

Amazon actually putting faith in and committing to tech in the UK I trust.
Tales of impending-but-not-yet-actually-happening gloom & doom I do not.

See also the post above on migration - which despite your attempts otherwise is proven not to have stopped.

The only man thinking they're an island seems to be you, which is even more strange when you live not on our island but where you do.
Do you never tire of being proven wrong?

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

Robert "smug" Peston put in his place by David Davis regarding the ECJ:

Mr Davis ripped into this red line and said Britain will not stand for it ahead of his planned meeting with Mr Barnier at the end of June.In strong terms, the Brexit minister said that the country will argue with the EU over the role of the European court.
He told Peston: "There will be arguments over fine detail such as whether the European Court of Justice oversees these rights after we've left."
When pressed by Peston on the "need for the ECJ", Mr Davis hit back: "We are not prepared to accept that. We'll have an argument about that.
"The simple truth is that we are leaving, we are going to be outside the reach of the European court. We do not want the ECJ getting involved in our affairs.
"I take slight offence to the idea that the Supreme Court couldn't oversee this. We have very good courts in this country."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/804363/David-Davis-Robert-Peston-Michel-Barnier-Brexit-talks

It might be the Express but it contains the video.

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

That's a dismissive statement. That ignores the facts totally. You sound like someone working in Brussels. Airbrush reality out of the picture.

I suspect you are wrong about where the poster works. (By the way if you think that it is an insult, "you sound like you work in Brussels" shows something is missing from this ping pong match)
You make a good point tho, this thread does not have enough posters from outside the UK.
While we have mainly Brexiters and a few remainders we/you/I discuss with little insight on how the 27 think.

I suspect I will be flamed for suggesting it.

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What's going to fund the State spend if tax rates are reduced? (Another of your threads by the way extolling the virtues of the high tax take in France). The French came to London for good reason.

Mind you vote Labour and there'll be no financial services sector left.

Sorry, I was not talking about bribing the French to come home.
If you (French) are caught between a hard place (uncertainty due to Brexit and feeling more foreign than you ever did before) and a charismatic young President in FRANCE you might begin to think FRANCE is a good place to bring up your children.

Ps, I should have added romantic to charismatic

Please no nasty sexist comments about his wife. You will be on the wrong side of history.

gfplux

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life wrote: »

Robert "smug" Peston put in his place by David Davis regarding the ECJ:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/804363/David-Davis-Robert-Peston-Michel-Barnier-Brexit-talks

It might be the Express but it contains the video.

An excellent point, except David Davis may not be leading the negotiations after the GE. He is presently auditioning for the job.
You are right. It is pathetic of Peston to talk about the ECJ as the first three things on the agenda are.
1)The rights of British and EU citizens
2) The Irish border
3) The financial settlement.

Starting in mid to late June those three things will take to September/October to pencil in. (Remember in phase one, the divorce, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed)

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

Sorry, I was not talking about bribing the French to come home.
If you (French) are caught between a hard place (uncertainty due to Brexit and feeling more foreign than you ever did before) and a charismatic young President in FRANCE you might begin to think FRANCE is a good place to bring up your children.

Ask yourself why thousands of French are currently resident in London. The reason (I assume!) Thrugelmir was talking about "bribing" them to come home is that the current french economic climate and personal tax regime had driven them to these shores in the first place.
Marcon has indeed promised to woo them home, but to do so would involve him taking on France`s notorious vested interests like the Unions.
Good luck with that one Emmanuel!