If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Quite correct. Often overlooked and will a be a complex situation. It is not in the headlines as Death and destruction is not a present and continuous danger. Perhaps Gibraltar and its residents will be sacrificed by PM May in some sort of trade off.

Dream on.
There is absolutely no way this would happen.
Not only because legally if the EU push the matter they are on murky ground but (as Vivatifosi says earlier) it would be both undemocratic (Gibraltarians want to remain British citizens) and potentially problematic for the Falklands and all other British Overseas Territories.

Arklight

mayonnaise wrote: »

Official unemployment rates, especially in Southern Europe, can be taken with a massive pinch of salt. Cash in hand is the norm.


I hope you're right.
An acceptable deal, or some half in-half out option, would leave the brexiteers with an easy option to blame all our coming economic woes on the 'half-in' bit.
We need a full, clean break.

I agree. Whatever happens - the Brexiteers shouldn't be left with anywhere to point the finger of blame for the results of their towering stupidity, other than themselves.

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

I agree. Whatever happens - the Brexiteers shouldn't be left with anywhere to point the finger of blame for the results of their towering stupidity, other than themselves.

The towering stupidity is more likely to come from the euroloons in Brussels for whom compromise means do what we say or else.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

cogito wrote: »

The towering stupidity is more likely to come from the euroloons in Brussels for whom compromise means do what we say or else.

I was wondering if posters such as the one you quote and the "usual suspects" will have the humility to demonstrate gratitude in the years to come, when Brexit proves to be a huge success and the EU meantime continue to wallow in stagnation?
Because so far at least, this seems much more likely than the impending doom and gloom that we have been promised for how long now?
With none of the threats actually happening.

gfplux

vivatifosi wrote: »

May will not throw Gibraltar under the bus. It will be hugely undemocratic to do so, as well as opening up cans of worms elsewhere, such as the Falklands.

As for Ireland, it should not matter what side of the EU debate anyone is on, a peaceful and stable Northern Ireland has to be the priority. Thankfully we have the first generation of young adults emerging who did not live through the troubles. Both sides need to do everything in their power to ensure that continues.

I thank your post and HOPE you are right.
Undemocratic......? now how does that normally measure in a politiciens mind. The people of the Falklands are probably feeling very uncomfortable at the moment. If Britain can ditch the EU and all it means a Pen stroke may ditch Gibraltar and the Falklands.

gfplux

Don't worry they are only THINKING of leaving. Anyway they probably are all foreigners!
http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450418721/Almost-three-quarters-of-tech-workers-thinking-of-leaving-UK-after-Brexit
Some posters on this thread think that the anger and ?? they show has nothing to do with how "foreigners" feel about working in, or leaving the UK.
One of the objective of Brexiters was to reduce the number of foreigners in Britain. Well you may get your wish.

Today As Macron become President he may persuade some or all those French living in London to come home.
Result say the Brexiters.

No man is an island, but Brexiters think they are.

StevieJ

Conrad wrote: »

Macron + protectionism = celebrated


Trump + protectionism = scorned




Gotta love 'progressive' consistency

Rubbish, they are both bad for the world economy, especially bad for us once we are out of the EU.

StevieJ

A good article.

Brexit bullies turn on those sorting out their mess

The racist right, it used to be said, wanted everyone to look the same, while the politically correct left wanted everyone to think the same. What unites the small and the dirty minded, however, is always more important than superficial ideological divisions. Now the worst of the right has become like the worst of the left. We must not only look like them but think like them

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/13/brexit-bullies-turning-on-those-sorting-out-their-mess

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Today As Macron become President he may persuade some or all those French living in London to come home.

What's going to fund the State spend if tax rates are reduced? (Another of your threads by the way extolling the virtues of the high tax take in France). The French came to London for good reason.

Mind you vote Labour and there'll be no financial services sector left.

Labour says it would raise billions of pounds for public services with a new tax on financial transactions - known as a "Robin Hood" tax.
The party said extending the way shares were taxed and closing a loophole would bring in up to £26bn in the next Parliament, if it won the election.

StevieJ

Conrad wrote: »

We're not leaving anything behind, trade volumes won't go down, but going forward we benefit from local autonomy and nimble footed global participation, as well as saving £10 bn in club fees and spending our own money as we chose more efficiently.

Only those afraid of leaving familiarity, reject the innovation and opportunities that change brings.

And guess what my Aunt travelled Europe for two years working all over the place long before we joined the Common market, let alone the EU. Magic.

That is interesting, it seems the old are all for new opportunities and innovation, and the young are all for familiarity . Not sure that sounds right?