If we vote for Brexit what happens

Arklight

cogito wrote: »

The towering stupidity is more likely to come from the euroloons in Brussels for whom compromise means do what we say or else.

No don't worry. While I'm sure there will be more than a few stupidity towers before this is over, the one's that started it all are going to have by far the largest.

TrickyTree83

Arklight wrote: »

No don't worry. While I'm sure there will be more than a few stupidity towers before this is over, the one's that started it all are going to have by far the largest.

Evidence for that?

Do you have prior knowledge of the outcome of negotiations?

I suspect the answer to both of my questions is "No".

gfplux

cogito wrote: »

I suspect you'll find that businesses in the UK are making exactly the same preparations. Remind me. Who buys more from whom?

Of course British manufacturers are (have) doing exactly the same. This is normal business when such a HUGE change in trading relationships is on the horizon.. However Look at the difference....
An Italian/French/German company looking for an alternative supplier Will have all the EU to look with open borders, no duty, no paperwork.
Whereas a British manufacturer will have to consider if the new product will be subject to border control, possible duty payable and EXTRA paperwork.
Or gamble that if the new/old supplier is in the EU what deal Britain will get in the Phase two of the negotiations and WHEN.

gfplux

Tromking wrote: »

Will it get anywhere near your beloved France`s current rate of 10%+?

Who knows, I hope not. However Britain is making its non EU bed and will have to live with the result.

gfplux

cogito wrote: »

Still less than Luxembourg, then. But then, what do experts know.

Quite right. Experts are always wrong until they are right.

gfplux

kabayiri wrote: »

Isn't this exactly what FoM proponents want? These Euro workers are able to move elsewhere according to their own economic circumstances.

We have no automatic right to keep them here. At the first sign of more money elsewhere, they would be off.

Or they might leave even if the money is the same because they feel less welcome.
It's not all about the money. If you have skills that make you attractive to employers in different Country's the quality of life plays an important part in the decisions.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Of course British manufacturers are (have) doing exactly the same. This is normal business when such a HUGE change in trading relationships. However Look at the difference....
An Italian company looking for an alternative supplier I have all the EU to look with open borders, no duty, no paperwork.
Whereas a British manufacturer if will have to consider if the new product will be subject to border control, possible duty payable and EXTRA paperwork.
Or gamble that if the new/old supplier is in the EU what deal Britain will get in the Phase two of the negotiations and WHEN.

You're looking at that from the wrong angle.

Your supposed Italian/French/German company will - because of the diktats of the EU - have all the EU to look to with its open borders BUT with the duties applied beforehand by the EU.

The British company will however be free to chose from suppliers around the globe free from EU diktats upon duties, quotas and trade barriers.

As for your paperwork - how little you know.
The EU is famed for unnecessary bureaucracy and the amount of paperwork the EU causes has oft been complained-of here in the UK.

Oh well.
Yet another attempt at pro-EU propaganda failed then.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Who knows, I hope not. However Britain is making its non EU bed and will have to live with the result.

Free of the constraints of the EU.
Yay.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Or they might leave even if the money is the same because they feel less welcome.

The world may end following an alien invasion too.
You really are clutching at straws here.

setmefree2

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/12/forget-52-rise-re-leavers-mean-pro-brexit-electora/

Thanks for posting that. It's really interesting.