If we vote for Brexit what happens

Tromking

Coalition talks collapse in Holland.
Mainland Europe's lurch to the right causing more issues.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39930986

Herzlos

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Hang on.
According to you (and left-wing publications like your link) EU workers will be leaving in droves.
Which means there will be more jobs available.
There has to be if workers leave their jobs en masse.
How then can that possibly equate to more unemployed?

EU workers in the UK generate service jobs (unless you think they don't eat, buy anything, travel, etc).

You're also assuming that there will be less job losses / economic contraction that EU workers leaving. If that was the case, there would indeed be less unemployment (if there were suitable UK unemployed to take the roles over - I don't know how many trained surgeons are on the dole, for instance).
It's entirely possible that we can lose a lot of skilled EU staff (and their pay checks) and still have a shortfall of jobs in a declining market.

I'm not saying that'll happen (I think it's certainly a risk), but it's definitely a possibility.

mayonnaise

cogito wrote: »

Well, yes, but AfD got 7.7% of the vote in last weekend's elections, clearing the 5% hurdle necessary to enter the regional assembly and will be represented in 13 of the 16 states. It remains on track to become the first far right party to enter the national parliament since 1945.

Wow. 7.7%!
If we had proportional representation here, UKIP would have close to 100 seats in parliament.

(awaits the usual guff about how UKIP's brand of right extremism is so much more benign than the continental versions )

Enterprise_1701C

mayonnaise wrote: »

Wow. 7.7%!
If we had proportional representation here, UKIP would have close to 100 seats in parliament.

(awaits the usual guff about how UKIP's brand of right extremism is so much more benign than the continental versions )

Constantly being forced to form coalitions is not doing Holland much good is it. It took them 54 days to form a government last time, and they have been trying to form a government for 61 days with 4 way talks going on, and have just given up.

PR is no good in this day and age, nothing ever gets done because it has to be agreed by all parties.

Tromking

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Constantly being forced to form coalitions is not doing Holland much good is it. It took them 54 days to form a government last time, and they have been trying to form a government for 61 days with 4 way talks going on, and have just given up.

PR is no good in this day and age, nothing ever gets done because it has to be agreed by all parties.

That fascist nutjob Geert Wilders is waiting by the phone apparently.
How did mainland Europe become so extreme?

Rinoa

ECJ rules EU trade deals must be ratified by each members parliaments.

Slim chances of any Brexit deal effectively just disappeared.

Excellent news. :beer:

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/0516/875513-trade-deals-ecj/

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Wow. 7.7%!
If we had proportional representation here, UKIP would have close to 100 seats in parliament.

(awaits the usual guff about how UKIP's brand of right extremism is so much more benign than the continental versions )

Straight from the Dianne Abbot school of mathematics.

mayonnaise

Rinoa wrote: »

ECJ rules EU trade deals must be ratified by each members parliaments.

Slim chances of any Brexit deal effectively just disappeared.

Excellent news. :beer:

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/0516/875513-trade-deals-ecj/

Excellent! The hardest of brexits. No halfway in option leaving the brexiteering headbangers a handy scapegoat when the economy tanks.
Exactly what we need to rid the great unwashed of their irrational Euro-phobias. Cold turkey.

Rinoa wrote: »

Straight from the Dianne Abbot school of mathematics.

Okay..okay...83 seats. Not as bad as Diane.

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Okay..okay...83 seats. Not as bad as Diane.

Oh dear.

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Excellent! The hardest of brexits. No halfway in option leaving the brexiteering headbangers a handy scapegoat when the economy tanks.
Exactly what we need to rid the great unwashed of their irrational Euro-phobias. Cold turkey.

We'll be dragged down with this for years if we negotiate. Even if we do end up with some kind of deal there will be endless conditions attached

The one thing business likes is certainty. Far better to bite the bullet now, leave in 2019 with no divorce bill, no further payments to the EU ever, no ECJ telling us what we can and can't do.

UK business and UK govt. know exactly where they stand and can make plans accordingly.