If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

First there was Barista Visa's.

The Health Committee has published a report on the effect of Brexit on health and social care, and warned the Department of Health that more emphasis needs to be placed on health issues in negotiations with Brussels.

Over 60,000 people from EU countries outside the UK work in the English NHS and around 90,000 in adult social care.

The committee warned that post-Brexit the country will continue to need, and benefit from the presence of EU staff in health and social care, and the impact of Brexit on the morale ‘is concerning and the uncertainty they face is unwelcome.’

And if any number of the 2.2 million EU workers in the UK return home. What are their job prospects? Still 9.6% unemployment rate.

CKhalvashi

Private_Church wrote: »

You mean like the VW group who conned the public with the emissions tests or Peugeot Citroen who's car electrics are absolutely dire or Vauxhall who's cars have been in total denial about the car fires?......... Shall I continue?..:)

I'm no expert on the industry but aren't the UK car plants amongst the most efficient in Europe?

I'm referring to the 70s/80s, not now in the wider context of the point.

On the last point, quite possibly, and I know it's more an entertainment show than factual, but the video below shows that manufacturing-wise it's not as bad as some are making out in reality.

How many of the parts are made abroad, I don't know, but I'd imagine a large proportion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmcmqTAu6b8

Thrugelmir

Rinoa wrote: »

We're digressing from the original point, which was the supposed difficulty of supply chains between the EU and UK after Brexit.

The issue in reality isn't as black and white. Cars are far more complex than they were in the 70's. The days of popping in Halfords. Buying a Haynes manual to see how a particular task was done. Then popping in the auto factors for the parts are well gone. I used to a fair amount of maintenance on my cars. Maintaining a Triumph Spitfire then a Triumph GT6 were relatively straightforward. No black boxes in those days.

posh*spice

Rinoa wrote: »

Unbelievable. Why didn't he phone the head of any of the other 27 EU members. Are we negotiating with the EU or Angela Merkel.

Angela Merkel ob-vious-ly.. The women sends me in to a rage - !!!!!! who put you in charge :mad::mad::mad:

posh*spice

Thrugelmir wrote: »

And if any number of the 2.2 million EU workers in the UK return home. What are their job prospects? Still 9.6% unemployment rate.

Is'nt that 3 million?

Thrugelmir

posh*spice wrote: »

Is'nt that 3 million?

Who knows. Some are most likely here "unofficially". Just as in the Indian/Pakistani communities. Cash in hand working for friends and family.

BobQ

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

It seems that you are not aware of the UK's existing medicines licensing authority, the MHRA.
That is, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency.

These are funded by the Dept. of Health & employ over 1200 people - which suggests that (as is so often the case with the EU) the UK is already funding its own regulatory body as well as part-funding an EU equivalent.

So nice try but we already pay 28/28ths (for our own) PLUS over 1/28 since we know the UK contributes more than most of the other 27.

I believe the EMA exists to make it possible for a non-EU sourced drug to be approved for use in all EU nations by a common process rather that individually by each EU nation.

BobQ

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Denmark's Finance Minister says they will not increase EU funding post-Brexit:

https://www.thelocal.dk/20170328/danish-minister-we-will-not-pay-more-to-eu-after-brexit

The EU must surely realise that without the UK they all need to adjust their contributions to reflect the new level of activity that the EU needs to support and their individual shares of it. It is no different to a business that loses a significant customer. It needs to scale the business to match the market, not carry on regardless watching the overdraft grow.

BobQ

Rinoa wrote: »

Maybe the problem was caused by joining the Eu in the first place. Maybe we're not as smart or more likely we've been outmaneuvered by others bending EU rules (VW?), hidden subsidies?

No reason why we can't go back to making as many cars as we did half a century ago and the parts too.

In time perhaps, but surely the costs of those cars will rise. Making all the manufacturer's engines in one plant and all the gearboxes in another and buying smaller components from a source shared by many manufacturers has economies of scale.

For the foreseeable future we will be locked into the globalised supply change.

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

The EU must surely realise that without the UK they all need to adjust their contributions to reflect the new level of activity that the EU needs to support and their individual shares of it. It is no different to a business that loses a significant customer. It needs to scale the business to match the market, not carry on regardless watching the overdraft grow.

For a business. That means scaling back by reducing activity. The EU cannot burden individual states already running deficits to simply contribute more. To maintain current expenditure plans.