If we vote for Brexit what happens

gfplux

This has been widely reported but not in this thread.
http://www.digitallook.com/news/news-and-announcements/lloyds-to-set-up-berlin-hub-post-brexit--2623796.html

Of course it is only a few jobs but they are properly taking precautions in these uncertain times.

"Lloyds Banking Group has decided to set up a European base in Germany after the UK leaves the EU, the BBC understands.
Lloyds has decided to convert its Berlin branch into a European hub, in order to maintain a presence inside the EU, sources told the BBC.
Several British financial institutions are putting plans in place to protect their EU operations after Brexit.
With the UK likely to leave the EU single market, they want to make sure they can still cater for EU clients."

gfplux

Amazing.
The number of applications for Irish passports rose by 26% in the first quarter of 2017, compared to the previous year, it was reported on Monday (17 April). According to The Irish Times, the Irish government confirmed the increase which, if it sustains, will see one million applications made over the course of the year following the UK's decision to exit the European Union.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ireland-set-issue-million-passports-092151235.html

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Interesting piece from Sky News about student immigration. The figures being quoted surprised me.
http://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-brexit-and-the-student-migration-paradox-10840378

"Foreign students come in, pay fees, and increase the demand for property.
The success of the university was one factor in Sunderland turning round a declining population, that saw it fall behind its neighbour and rival Newcastle.
And so it is a business model that increases net migration.
Yet, the Government has an official target that seeks to reduce net migration."
And, indeed, there can be little doubt that overall increases in migration helped boost the number of people who voted for Brexit, in Sunderland and across England and Wales.

I always thought the drop in student numbers would be EU students but this article suggests that "international" students are also turning away from Britain.

Students are not migrants.

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Amazing.
The number of applications for Irish passports rose by 26% in the first quarter of 2017, compared to the previous year, it was reported on Monday (17 April). According to The Irish Times, the Irish government confirmed the increase which, if it sustains, will see one million applications made over the course of the year following the UK's decision to exit the European Union.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ireland-set-issue-million-passports-092151235.html

This means that the number of passport applications rose last year and some of them were UK citizens. It doesn't mean that the Irish passport office has processed a million applications from citizens of the UK. Nothing amazing about it.

Look. I'm a UK citizen living in an EU country and I have an Irish grandparent which means that I could obtain an Irish passport. If things got sticky, which I very much doubt, I could apply for an Irish passport. That doesn't necessarily mean that I would get one as I have to prove eligibility and that might not be easy as many birth records were destroyed in a fire in Dublin in the 1920s. So suppose my application is turned down. The total number of applications includes both successful and unsuccessful.

You really need to stop clutching at every passing straw which might support your opposition to Brexit.

Arklight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

So, much continues to rumble on as before in Euroland with major difficulties such as migration remaining unresolved.
How will EU relationships with Turkey - already low - progress following Turkey's close-call vote?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/eu-observer-turkey-condemns-referendum-result-president-erdogan-opposition-parties-demand-recount-a7686876.html

Remember that in the region of 2.5 million Syrian refugees are in Turkey following a Turkish/EU agreement; a few times already Turkey has vocalized threats to this agreement and said it will open land passage towards Europe for them.

And back to immigration project fear Brexit scaremongering...

Floods of refugees, sorry migrants because no one has a legitimate reason to flee war according to Brexiters, about to deluge the village green near you. Daily Express to be banned by Leftists!

Foreigners might come!

Pull up the drawbridge and retreat to 1953!!!!!

Arklight

gfplux wrote: »

Interesting piece from Sky News about student immigration. The figures being quoted surprised me.
http://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-brexit-and-the-student-migration-paradox-10840378

"Foreign students come in, pay fees, and increase the demand for property.
The success of the university was one factor in Sunderland turning round a declining population, that saw it fall behind its neighbour and rival Newcastle.
And so it is a business model that increases net migration.
Yet, the Government has an official target that seeks to reduce net migration."
And, indeed, there can be little doubt that overall increases in migration helped boost the number of people who voted for Brexit, in Sunderland and across England and Wales.

I always thought the drop in student numbers would be EU students but this article suggests that "international" students are also turning away from Britain.

UCAS applications from the EU are down by double digits. All the EU students who started in September had their places confirmed by March 2016.

Students should be taken out of immigration figures if only because as far as every fearful Little Englander is concerned, one immigrant is too many.

Apart from the NHS, international students have no recourse to public funds. They usually leave as soon as their course ends because our government won't allow them to stay even for a year, they are concentrated in cities and university towns and generally their paths will never cross with that of the fearful Englander, clutching his Daily Express to his breast while the ducks fly over Little Toddington Common, generally the only semblance of a foreign tongue those places ever hear.

There is no reason to worry him further or stoke his anxiety by calling people migrants who have no intentim of staying here.

Arklight

Liam Fox and his aides have travelled almost the same combined distance as between the earth and moon, 238,000 miles on 35 trips in search of a Brexit trade deal.

And haven't signed a single one.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/liam-foxs-team-travelled-240000-10244605

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Arklight wrote: »

And back to immigration project fear Brexit scaremongering...

Floods of refugees, sorry migrants because no one has a legitimate reason to flee war according to Brexiters, about to deluge the village green near you. Daily Express to be banned by Leftists!

Foreigners might come!

Pull up the drawbridge and retreat to 1953!!!!!

You know, you could (just for once) try intelligent debate rather than facetious pseudo-propaganda.
Such posts are deteriorating into nothing short of ranting prattle.

Nowhere do I suggest anything like you claim.
We all know however that most of those in Turkey wish to enter Europe.
We also know that very few (relatively) are accepted here in the UK.
This then was a very real indication of a problem faced by Europe which has not simply gone away.
NOT a UK problem per se.

As said earlier to another poster in this thread, you really need to stop clutching at each and every straw which might just - at a push - support your opposition to Brexit.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Arklight wrote: »

Liam Fox and his aides have travelled almost the same combined distance as between the earth and moon, 238,000 miles on 35 trips in search of a Brexit trade deal.

And haven't signed a single one.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/liam-foxs-team-travelled-240000-10244605

Considering that by doing so we would be violating the terms of The Lisbon Treaty that is hardly surprising.
Post-Brexit is fine.
Before is not.
Or do you still not understand?

gfplux

I thought it had been mentioned in this thread that Denmark was a UK supporter.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/18/denmark-to-contest-uk-efforts-to-take-back-control-of-fisheries

"The British government’s plan to “take back control” of its waters after leaving the EU is about to be challenged by a claim from Denmark that its fishermen have a historical right to access to the seas around Britain dating back to the 1400s.

Officials in Copenhagen have mined the archives to build a legal case that could potentially be fought in the international court of justice in the Hague, although officials hasten to say that this is not their intention.

Denmark is seeking a Brexit deal that recognises the right of its fleet to continue to exploit a hundred shared stocks of species such as cod, herring, mackerel, plaice and sand eel."