If we vote for Brexit what happens

always_sunny

gfplux wrote: »

THRUGELMIR,
I can not or will not debate the legal fine print on wether a French Citizen has to LEGALLY hold an identity card.
However my wife, who is a French citizen believes everyone has one. It is so embedded into daily life (as in Luxembourg) that you can hardly do anything without one.

Europe seems to me to have a pretty "joined up" computer system. Just get flashed on a French motorway for speeding and a fine will pop through your letter box in most of the 28 Country's of the EU. Not of course if you have a British car as Britain (always the reluctant member) has not signed up to the system.

There is no legislation requiring nationals (French or whatever) to hold an identity card in France, however one must be able to identify themselves and other documents are acceptable.

En lieu of lack of document one may need to identify themselves at a police station, i.e. you cannot identify yourself through a piece of paper, come with us and we will identify you.

Italy I believe required only certain people (i.e. on parole, etc) to carry ID but not everybody.
Other EU countries may have their own rules.

Conrad

CKhalvashi wrote: »

They're doing it for their own benefit (because £1 being worth less in USD terms is great for Americans thus maximising their own profits and removing money from the UK), not ours.

Your side endlessly tell us investment will dry up and the UK economy will suffer, and yet here once again we have a global firm backing investment in Britain and you just dismiss it.


Brexit is an opportunity, a re-birth of Great Britain, the fact you side cannot see this is a shame really.

CKhalvashi

Conrad wrote: »

Your side endlessly tell us investment will dry up and the UK economy will suffer, and yet here once again we have a global firm backing investment in Britain and you just dismiss it.


Brexit is an opportunity, a re-birth of Great Britain, the fact you side cannot see this is a shame really.

A firm that refused to see the benefits of British on various new products released last and early this decade?

A firm that also on the 777X has chosen an American supplier as the sole one on engines worth US$80+m at list price per plane?

So, they don't want some of the finest aircraft engines in the world, but do want to invest tiny amounts into the UK ($25m doesn't even cover an engine), with you classing that as 'major' investment?

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, hope you understand why

Herzlos

Boeing creating some manufacturing here is definintely a good thing, depending on the reasons (are they expecting some perks post Brexit, like reduced labour costs or reduced red tape?).

Is it enough of an increase to offset much that we'll lose? Or pay the admin bill for Brexit?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

CKhalvashi wrote: »

A firm that refused to see the benefits of British on various new products released last and early this decade?

A firm that also on the 777X has chosen an American supplier as the sole one on engines worth US$80+m at list price per plane?

So, they don't want some of the finest aircraft engines in the world, but do want to invest tiny amounts into the UK ($25m doesn't even cover an engine), with you classing that as 'major' investment?

Sorry, but I'm not buying it, hope you understand why

You are wrong again.
So I am sure you will forgive those of us who are amazed at your lack of knowledge regarding Boeing and their investment here in the UK.

From March 2016:

Boeing currently employs 2,000 staff in the UK. It has also invested £1.8billion in the country.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-3497621/Boeing-s-Brexit-boost-World-s-largest-aircraft-maker-picks-Britain-home-new-European-headquarters.html

Then a little later last year:

Boeing has confirmed it will invest about £100m in an operational support and training base at RAF Lossiemouth, creating more than 100 new jobs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-36763883

So, investing £1.8 billion plus these latest is investing "tiny amounts into the UK" is it?

gfplux

An MEP' take on some Brexit complications, who new?
He's a Labour MEP for Yorkshire and Humber and has his agenda.
They are his words NOT mine.
http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/brexit-european-agencies/

"Theresa May’s statement that we won’t be trying to stay in bits of the EU means that, in principle, we shall also be leaving more than 40 EU agencies (including some located in Britain) which perform tasks on behalf of all member states, including us, over a wide range of policy areas.

They handle cross-border problems, cut costs by pooling resources, and have often become vital to effective cooperation in the field they cover.

Some oversee cross-border transport, such as the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) and the European Maritime Safety Agency (EMSA).

Some test and establish joint safety standards for products, such as the Chemicals Agency (ECHA) and the Medicines Agency (EMA), which is UK based.

Some deal with areas where national boundaries are not respected, either by the natural world, such as the Environment Agency (EEA) and the Fisheries Control Agency (EFCA), or by criminals (EUROPOL) or by flows of capital, such as the European Banking Authority (EBA).
Some also have responsibilities for the application of standards set at UN level (in fields such as food, transport, fishing and intellectual property), where doing so jointly in Europe cuts costs and increases efficiency."


There is plenty more at his blog, link above.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Europe seems to me to have a pretty "joined up" computer system. Just get flashed on a French motorway for speeding and a fine will pop through your letter box in most of the 28 Country's of the EU. Not of course if you have a British car as Britain (always the reluctant member) has not signed up to the system.

The UK, Ireland and Denmark deferred introduction of the system until this year. No doubt there was a reason for doing so. To suggest that the UK hasn't signed up. Is again factually incorrect.

Tromking

CKhalvashi wrote: »

No conflict there at all. It should be required to access some services, a glplux has explained in a lot more detail than I have.

Sorry CK you were citing the example of mainland Europe`s ID`s cards as a way the UK could control immigration.

Shakethedisease

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/theresa-may-braced-second-scottish-independence-referendum/

Sterling dropped.

I read else where that the Indy2 vote will be after we exit the EU in 2019.

No it won't be. While May might wish that to be the case but Sturgeon will set the date well before that.

mollycat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

No it won't be. While May might wish that to be the case but Sturgeon will set the date well before that.

Sturgeon can't "set the date".