If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

Yes when I travel I make sure I have insurance and abide by a countries rules, so this ^ is a good move.


Woman on LBC this morning saying how foreigners are dumping their sick foreign elderly parents at care homes and the state is picking up the bill and cant even trace any relatives.


Another classic example of Britain being the spongers paradise

kabayiri

gfplux wrote: »

I wonder what the reasons for not signing up were. Do you know? What month this year were they scheduled to sign up or was it just kicked down the road?

Tracking cars by number plate can be problematic when it comes to private plates. I know this from direct experience of data migrations. It sounds straight forward to implement, but it's not.

Unless things have changed, there are some subtle differences too. We link one active registration to a vehicle here, but this is not the case in all parts of Europe. Have a look into Belgian security forces to see what I mean.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Woman on LBC this morning saying how foreigners are dumping their sick foreign elderly parents at care homes and the state is picking up the bill and cant even trace any relatives.


Another classic example of Britain being the spongers paradise

Another classic example of suspending credulity if a stranger on the radio says something one would like to believe is true.

kabayiri

Conrad wrote: »

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Woman on LBC this morning saying how foreigners are dumping their sick foreign elderly parents at care homes and the state is picking up the bill and cant even trace any relatives.
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This is an example of the ambitions of a free and open EU being ahead of the practicalities of the current systems.

It presents opportunities to game the systems that are in place.

The EU political elite are absolutely right in the identification of the solution for this. They want much closer integration on all fronts. Their long term strategy pretty much says as much.

The problem is that the UK public don't seem to be too keen on this idea.

kabayiri

wotsthat wrote: »

Another classic example of suspending credulity if a stranger on the radio says something one would like to believe is true.

If there was an opportunity for British pensioners to live effectively rent free in warm Spain, due to a technical loophole, don't you think there would be threads all over MSE on it like a rash?

I don't blame people for exploiting opportunities. It's up to the systems to evolve.

wotsthat

kabayiri wrote: »

If there was an opportunity for British pensioners to live effectively rent free in warm Spain, due to a technical loophole, don't you think there would be threads all over MSE on it like a rash?

I don't blame people for exploiting opportunities. It's up to the systems to evolve.

Before I blame (or otherwise) people for exploiting opportunities I prefer to know if they're actually exploiting said opportunities.

Just how many foreigners are dumping elderly relatives on the UK state and disappearing without a trace?

Conrad

The Government has defeated the first challenge in the Lords to its plan to trigger Brexit negotiations next month.
Peers voted against an amendment to the Brexit Bill demanding the UK retains its membership of the European single market.
The 229 to 136 vote, a majority of 163, exposed deep divisions within Labour.
In the debate, former Business Secretary Lord Mandelson warned it would be an "economic disaster" for Britain to leave the single market.
Lord Mandelson hit back saying the UK would be a "senior influential" member of the European Economic Area (EEA) with influence over rule-making.
However, opposition frontbencher Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town accused supporters of the amendment of offering "unrealistic hope" that the UK could stay within the EU's trading area.

Warning against re-running the arguments of the referendum campaign, she said Britain would be recipients of rules set in Brussels if it opted for a Norwegian-style model.
"I can't understand why my own frontbench can't see it," he said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-bill-amendment-article-50-theresa-may-house-of-lords-lord-mandelson-baroness-hayter-a7602916.html

Conrad

^ I've tried several times to increase the font size in that post I pasted in from my word document but the mse site is not functioning correctly to allow me to do this.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

CKhalvashi wrote: »

That's not the figure quoted elsewhere.
Then where is your proof?
Here is mine, this time direct from Boeing themselves:
http://www.boeing.co.uk/news-media-room/news-releases/2016/july/boeing-uk-government-announce-long-term-initiative.page
If Boeing have 2000 employees already in the UK, then how is this their first operation?
Show us where it said that?
What the report said is "its first ever manufacturing facility in Europe".
Very different to your "first operation".
Also, as per the link, the investment was decided pre-referendum. You've twisted it to be a positive sign of Brexit, where in reality that's not the case really, is it?
Strangely enough, I did not mention Brexit at all in regards to Boeing.
Show me where I did?
You moved the goalposts on this one, not me.
Wrong yet again.
Show me where?
See the above, also highlighted in red.

Even at that number, £1.8bn is 5 weeks [STRIKE]NHS[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]Brexiteers fantasy[/STRIKE] money that is paid into the EU, going on [STRIKE]Brexiteers fantasy figures[/STRIKE] the numbers that were once printed on a bus, and less than 0.136% of the total inward investment into the UK. Hardly a huge amount when put into perspective, is it?
I tell you what, let's cancel ALL investment just because you think that none of it matters.
I'll inform Amazon, Facebook, Dong Energy, Nissan & Google shall I? Plus all the others?
No, the only fantasy in here comes from you.

Don't twist what I actually said for your own agenda
Hmm, you can't really get much more twisted than your posts from what we can see.

Would you like a spade to dig that hole of yours even deeper?

My response highlighted in red above.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

Before I blame (or otherwise) people for exploiting opportunities I prefer to know if they're actually exploiting said opportunities.

Just how many foreigners are dumping elderly relatives on the UK state and disappearing without a trace?

You gang always claim such anecdotes must be nonsense, but invariably these canary in the coal mine examples end up being shown to be widespread events later on. It's classic 'out of touch progressive' to dismiss peoples experiences and prefer a report written but some drippy academic from his ivory tower.