If we vote for Brexit what happens

Sapphire

Conrad wrote: »

You gang always claim such anecdotes must be nonsense, but invariably these canary in the coal mine examples end up being shown to be widespread events later on. It's classic 'out of touch progressive' to dismiss peoples experiences and prefer a report written but some drippy academic from his ivory tower.

I don't know what the figures are, but what I do know is that I am seeing more and more elderly (mainly southern European) couples walking around near where I live. I doubt whether they are tourists, and they are unlikely to be working.

This is a comparatively recent phenomenon, though mainland Europeans in my area have generally increased substantially during the last two years. When you go out during the day, it is often difficult to see English people among all the young central Europeans (and others) with prams, as well as the afore-mentioned elders…

More ammunition for 'stator', AKA 'r toast', and his rants.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

You gang always claim such anecdotes must be nonsense, but invariably these canary in the coal mine examples end up being shown to be widespread events later on. It's classic 'out of touch progressive' to dismiss peoples experiences and prefer a report written but some drippy academic from his ivory tower.

Didn't say anecdotal evidence is nonsense. I said you're willing to accept anecdotal evidence because, in this case, you'd like it to be true.

It's not even first hand anecdotal evidence - it's that of a stranger calling a radio show so its not even up there with a 'drippy' academic report in terms of setting a decent standard of evidence.

By the way canaries are killed by the presence of poisonous gas rather than anecdotal evidence of poisonous gas.

wotsthat

Sapphire wrote: »

I don't know what the figures are, but what I do know is that I am seeing more and more elderly (mainly southern European) couples walking around near where I live. I doubt whether they are tourists, and they are unlikely to be working.

This is a comparatively recent phenomenon, though mainland Europeans in my area have generally increased substantially during the last two years. When you go out during the day, it is often difficult to see English people among all the young central Europeans (and others) with prams, as well as the afore-mentioned elders…

More ammunition for 'stator', AKA 'r toast', and his rants.

Second hand anecdotal evidence supported by sightings of aging foreign couples walking in the street.

What is this board coming to?

cogito

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-budget-germany-idUKKBN16626K?il=0


How will Germans react when they begin to realise, I wonder?

The thought of cutting their coat according to their cloth would never occur to the Eurocrats.

Sapphire

wotsthat wrote: »

Second hand anecdotal evidence supported by sightings of aging foreign couples walking in the street.

What is this board coming to?

Don't be silly. I'm just providing information on very obvious things that I actually see around me. You can take it (obviously, you wouldn't want to since it presumably wouldn't fit your world view), so leave it, then. No skin off my nose. :beer:

Wotever, as they say…

posh*spice

Sapphire wrote: »

Don't be silly. I'm just providing information on very obvious things that I actually see around me. You can take it (obviously, you wouldn't want to since it presumably wouldn't fit your world view), so leave it, then. No skin off my nose. :beer:

Wotever, as they say…

Be careful - don't feed the trolls

kabayiri

wotsthat wrote: »

Second hand anecdotal evidence supported by sightings of aging foreign couples walking in the street.

What is this board coming to?

It's interesting.

I do pick up on people speaking something like Polish in to their mobile phone out on the street or in the shops now.

I don't recall noticing that much in the past. Now, is it because it is more frequent, or does the current climate mean I am likely to be more aware of it?

It could well be that EU migrants are moving into places where there has been traditionally little migration, and people are starting to notice.

Perhaps these places are less accepting of change?

Shakethedisease

setmefree2 wrote: »

OK I stand corrected.

We shall see. Don't you think it would only be fair to Scottish voters that you wait and see how the EU negotiations go? The outcome of negotiations with the US? Or are you not really interested in fairness?

Me ? I'm interested in the Scottish electorate getting what the Scottish people voted for. Right now they apparently wish to be both in the EU/Single Market and the UK. The only way to resolve this is to go back to the Scottish electorate and ask which it's to be. This seems fair and reasonable enough to me.

However, and from Holyrood's point of view waiting to ask the question once Scotland is already out of the EU/Single Market.. renders the very point of asking it in the first place pointless. Therefore timing has to be taken into consideration as well, meaning another vote has to take place before Scotland leaves the EU/Single market. We should have a good idea of where negotiations are going in the next year or so and how they will affect Scotland. Enough for Scots residents to make their choices then fully engaged and informed on the EU angle.

English and Welsh voters have made their decision and that's absolutely fine. But there's a huge degree of confusion and churn given the results of the last two referendums in Scotland. This must be resolved one way or the other and resolved before Scotland leaves the EU/Single Market.

CKhalvashi

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-latest-news-nissan-uk-business-jobs-7000-employees-car-plant-sunderland-a7603721.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/27/bmw-electric-mini-germany-uk-brexit-germany-oxford

“The BMW group has always made clear that we believe integration of the UK into the EU single market, maintaining free movement of goods, services, capital and talent, would be best for business. What’s important for us is that the UK’s negotiations with the EU result in uncomplicated, tariff-free access to the EU single market in future.
“As a major investor and employer in the UK, the BMW group urges the government to take the concerns of international business into account. Not only free trade but also cross-border employment opportunities and unified, internationally applied regulations are of proven benefit to business, the economy and individuals.”

BMW hit the nail on the head.

So, we gain Boeing and lose Nissan, Vauxhall and Mini.

Really smelling of roses, isn't it?

Tromking

CKhalvashi wrote: »

BMW hit the nail on the head.

So, we gain Boeing and lose Nissan, Vauxhall and Mini.

Really smelling of roses, isn't it?

Bad day (night!) CK?
Of the course the natural extrapolation from any reasonable person to your article is that Nissan, Vauxhall and Mini are off isn`t it?