If we vote for Brexit what happens

CKhalvashi

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Unchallenged or not. The Telegraph is reporting that triggering Article 50 will end FOM to the UK.

It may be reporting it, but that isn't the reality on my interpretation of EU law. It may also be the governments intention, but same applies.

We'll see I suppose whether this is just something the Telegraph is spinning or whether it really is trailing an a real announcement in the next week or so.

I'd go with the latter, but again, it will be challenged and it's IMO very likely the government will lose.

Shakethedisease

CKhalvashi wrote: »

It may be reporting it, but that isn't the reality on my interpretation of EU law. It may also be the governments intention, but same applies.

I'd go with the latter, but again, it will be challenged and it's IMO very likely the government will lose.

Yes. Maybe. But it will feed further into the EU bad blame game if it does get challenged. ( I'm an SNP member and remain voter, I can see how the media and politicians will play this to the hilt should it happen ). Going by the comments it's an announcement, should it happen, that will be very much welcomed by many leave voters.

Anyway we'll see. Just thought given the discussion surrounding id cards this article would be relevant to the thread.

CKhalvashi

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Yes. Maybe. But it will feed further into the EU bad blame game if it does get challenged. ( I'm an SNP member and remain voter, I can see how the media and politicians will play this to the hilt should it happen ). Going by the comments it's an announcement, should it happen, that will be very much welcomed by many leave voters.

Anyway we'll see. Just thought given the discussion surrounding id cards this article would be relevant to the thread.

Ah, yes, sorry, I forgot the UK became a dictatorship whose government could ignore rules it willingly signed up to. Thanks for reminding me

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Your neighbours in France have no statutory requirement to hold an ID card. Given the population size of Luxembourg a far easier task to implement than in a major economy. Where data is spread across multiple computer data systems. As we are finding in the UK. Requirements imposed on the banks to provide visibility across different platforms for accounts. Is actually creating a situation of suppliers of current accounts are withdrawing from the market segment. As the cost of compliance is simply uneconomic to implement. So much for diversity and choice.

THRUGELMIR,
I can not or will not debate the legal fine print on wether a French Citizen has to LEGALLY hold an identity card.
However my wife, who is a French citizen believes everyone has one. It is so embedded into daily life (as in Luxembourg) that you can hardly do anything without one.

Europe seems to me to have a pretty "joined up" computer system. Just get flashed on a French motorway for speeding and a fine will pop through your letter box in most of the 28 Country's of the EU. Not of course if you have a British car as Britain (always the reluctant member) has not signed up to the system.

gfplux

Shakethedisease wrote: »

According to the Telegraph. FOM ends next month.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/26/theresa-may-poised-announce-end-free-movement-new-eu-migrants/

Wonder if the EU will return the favour ?

I believe this is linked to statements already made by the PM. IF IT CAN BE AGREED between Britain and the EU during the negotiations.

"All EU/British citizens residing in Britain/EU on the DATE OF TRIGGERING A50 Will have the continuing right to stay."

setmefree2

Theresa May is preparing for Nicola Sturgeon to call a second independence referendum, according to reports.
The First Minister is expected to call another vote on on Scottish independence at the same time the British Government triggers Article 50 next month.
The Prime Minister could reject the demand or accept it and risk the future of the United Kingdom, the Times report.


Senior Tory sources have argued that blocking another referendum would provoke a massive public backlash in Scotland that could drive up support for separation, which polls have suggested has fallen back slightly in recent months.
Since the UK voted to leave the EU and Scotland voted to remain, there has been speculation that Ms Sturgeon would hold another vote.
Ms Sturgeon has warned that Mrs May's plans for a hard Brexit "undoubtedly" made a second referendum a more likely prospect.

It came as Mrs May has urged voters across Scotland to use upcoming local government elections to send a “clear message” to Nicola Sturgeon that they do not want another independence referendum.
She argued that Scots should back the Conservatives on May 4 to demonstrate their opposition to a rerun of the 2014 vote and rejected Ms Sturgeon’s claim that the Brexit vote shows the Union is not a partnership of equals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/theresa-may-braced-second-scottish-independence-referendum/

Sterling dropped.

I read else where that the Indy2 vote will be after we exit the EU in 2019.

setmefree2

100% Finished.

London Stock Exchange/Deutsche Boerse merger in doubt

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39098805

CKhalvashi

gfplux wrote: »

I believe this is linked to statements already made by the PM. IF IT CAN BE AGREED between Britain and the EU during the negotiations.

"All EU/British citizens residing in Britain/EU on the DATE OF TRIGGERING A50 Will have the continuing right to stay."

The EU says no.

Looking forward to the legal challenge to clarify the point of law, can't imagine the Leavers to be too happy about it though.

setmefree2

Boeing's decision to establish first European base in UK shows our international potential post-Brexit

Last week Boeing made an extraordinary statement. The world's largest aerospace and communications company announced its first ever manufacturing facility in Europe, supporting global growth and competitiveness for the world’s largest aerospace company and enabling access to UK talent and capability. And where will this facility be? In a joint venture with its capability in Oregon in the USA, Boeing has chosen to develop Boeing Sheffield.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/02/27/boeings-decision-establish-first-european-base-uk-shows-international/

CKhalvashi

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/02/27/boeings-decision-establish-first-european-base-uk-shows-international/

We already have Airbus, with full commonality (you can fly an A380 one day and an A318 the next, in reality no airline operates like this although BMI had dual-qualified A320/330 crews) which Boeing doesn't have. The wings and a lot of the engines for Airbus are produced in Wales and Derby respectively.

Boeing snubbed the same British manufacturer for GE on the 3 newer 777 models and 747-8. Airbus planes are much nicer to fly on generally, too (perhaps with the exception of the 747 upper deck)

They're doing it for their own benefit (because £1 being worth less in USD terms is great for Americans thus maximising their own profits and removing money from the UK), not ours.