If we vote for Brexit what happens

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

British car exports to the US up by 50% in 2016.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38751852

There was also a big rise in car exports to the US, where demand jumped by almost half, accounting for around 14% of all UK car exports.

Just some perpective. US sales are up by 50%, but 50% of a small amount.

Conrad

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The panic displayed by some remain protagonists is about to get much worse I think after this:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-article50-timetable-idUKKBN15A1BY

Lots of Remainers have assured me that though past predictions turned out wrong, the triggering of A50 will deffo be the economic atom bomb blast


Lets see eh...........



They are very excited that Carlsberg and Heineken are planning a price rise of 2 p a tin. I guess we'd better cancel Brexit and bring an end to 2 p price rises.

mayonnaise

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The panic displayed by some remain protagonists is about to get much worse I think after this:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-article50-timetable-idUKKBN15A1BY


That follows this:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-article50-publication-idUKKBN15A1FA?il=0

Erm, ok.
Parliament is about to debate triggering Art.50
Didn't we know this already?
What exactly are remain protagonists supposed to be panicking about?

Rinoa

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The panic displayed by some remain protagonists is about to get much worse I think after this:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-article50-timetable-idUKKBN15A1BY


That follows this:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-article50-publication-idUKKBN15A1FA?il=0

Beautiful.

One Bill Her Maj will be delighted to sign.

davomcdave

mayonnaise wrote: »

Erm, ok.
Parliament is about to debate triggering Art.50
Didn't we know this already?
What exactly are remain protagonists supposed to be panicking about?

The people I know that voted remain, as I did, just want the whole thing over and done with now. I don't think there are many people left that think that anything other than triggering A50 and leaving the EU is going to happen except Sturgeon and even she's only pretending so she can have another referendum on Scexit.

davomcdave

Rinoa wrote: »

Beautiful.

One Bill Her Maj will be delighted to sign.

I think pretty much everyone supports this now. There's no point pretending that anything other than Brexit is going to happen regardless of how or if you voted in June. Unless you're my boss, he is still convinced that Brexit isn't going to happen but he is quite a stubborn man.

I supported remain and would still like Britain to rethink Brexit but I fully accept that my beliefs aren't going to be enacted in the short term. I will use my freedom of speech and freedom to vote as I see fit in order to support remaining or rejoining the EU but in the next two years and a couple of months we're out.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

It would seem that the unresolved EU migration problem is rearing its head again:

The European Union's top migration official is urging EU countries to agree on a way to fairly distribute the load of migrant arrivals, as the bloc's plan to share refugees languishes.

EU nations agreed in September 2015 to share 160,000 refugees in Greece and Italy over two years. But only around 11,000 refugees have been shifted, seven months before the plan expires.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/eu-urged-share-migrant-load-refugee-plan-languishes-45059259

davomcdave

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

It would seem that the unresolved EU migration problem is rearing its head again:


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/eu-urged-share-migrant-load-refugee-plan-languishes-45059259

That's not really a problem of being in the EU so much as a problem of geography. If you live next door to a war you're going to have refugees as a result. Brexit is not going to stop refugees from existing nor is it going to erase Britain's moral or practical obligation to take a certain number of families fleeing war or poverty for that matter.

Unless we are going to move Greece so it is further away from North Africa then we will continue to see people fleeing ISIS arrive there and whether in or out of the EU Britain will still end up taking a share of refugees just as Canada and America have.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

At the same time it sounds like the EU are looking into the possibility of camps in Africa to process migrants:

U interior ministers will consider plans on Thursday to finance camps in Africa where the UN refugee agency and aid groups would process migrants to prevent them trying to cross the Mediterranean to Europe.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/215626/article/ekathimerini/news/eu-looks-to-camps-in-africa-to-cut-immigration

A_Medium_Size_Jock

davomcdave wrote: »

That's not really a problem of being in the EU so much as a problem of geography. If you live next door to a war you're going to have refugees as a result. Brexit is not going to stop refugees from existing nor is it going to erase Britain's moral or practical obligation to take a certain number of families fleeing war or poverty for that matter.

Unless we are going to move Greece so it is further away from North Africa then we will continue to see people fleeing ISIS arrive there and whether in or out of the EU Britain will still end up taking a share of refugees just as Canada and America have.

A remarkably naive statement, frankly.

Please explain what war Italy or indeed Greece are "next door" to?
Because if you are referring to Syrian refugees, there are many countries "next door" before you reach Greece and certainly before you reach Italy.
Also the Syrians in these countries (Italy and Greece) who may indeed be fleeing war are where they are in large part because a certain Frau Merkel invited them.
But the others?
The Afghans, Pakistanis, Albanians, Iranians, Iraquis - and the various African nations currently crossing the Med.?

These huge majority of these migrants are certainly not fleeing ISIS, they are economic migrants pure and simple.

Who suggested Brexit would stop refugees?
Not me, so I fail to see the relevance.
It is however yet another example of EU incompetence.
Because the so-called "migrant crisis" has not just gone away, it has been brushed under the carpet by the EU.