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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,982 Forumite
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    at the worse case and WTO tarriffs were applied, then Uk produced cars would still be cheaper in the EU than a year ago because of the fall in the pound;
    whereas, EU produced cars will be a lot more expensive in the UK given the relative strength of the euro plus a WTO tariff.
    You're right, those EU workers should indeed be shouting loudly.

    Yeah the EU produced cars becoming more expensive in the UK is a going to be a real concern, whether or not there is a tariff on them (EU could insist on tariff free cars easily enough). That'd leave us either buying the same cars for more money (and spending it on something else), keeping cars longer, or building more British cars (using almost exclusively imported components). So I don't know what will happen; we're a lot more precious about having new cars than the Europeans are, so there's going to be an odd shift, somewhere.
  • Herzlos
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Saw a great stat tonight on the news:

    Apparantly growth in the first six months of the year was 0.9%.
    In the second halve, 1.2%.

    I do apologise for the Brexit damage done....lol

    Correlation != Causation.

    Is the growth coming from Brexit, from the drop in the GBP, or from something else entirely?
  • Conrad
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    edited 27 January 2017 at 12:07PM
    Herzlos wrote: »
    Correlation != Causation.

    Is the growth coming from Brexit, from the drop in the GBP, or from something else entirely?

    Not the point. The point is AFTER the vote was delivered, and in full knowledge A 50 would not be triggered for months, Remaoners all over the airwaves assured me we would very soon have a nasty recession that would cause ignorant Brexiteers to have a change of heart.

    Remainers one after another called into LBC all smug announcing we'd be sorry by Autumn
  • gfplux
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    Perhaps we all ought to move to Luxembourg? It's obviously the land of milk and honey. :rotfl:

    Its not bad actually.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Herzlos
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Not the point. The point is AFTER the votes was done, and in full knowledge A 50 would not be triggered for months, Remaoners all access the airwaves assured me we would very soon have a nasty recession that would cause ignorant Brexiteers to have a change of heart.

    Drippy Remainers one after another called into LBC all smug announcing we'd be sorry by Autumn

    And everyone acknowledged that it was wrong (since the assumption that we'd be well on the way to leaving by now), changed their stance and moved on, 6 months ago. So I'm not sure the point you're trying to make is? That things haven't melted down yet so they must be OK in the future?

    You've only been able to show us that stuff hasn't gone wrong yet, not that things will improve. But to be fair, you can't, because nothing has actually happened yet.
  • gfplux
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    edited 27 January 2017 at 11:13AM
    Bad news for Luxembourg!
    Frankfurt look like they will get many of the Banking jobs.
    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/27/frankfurt-brexit-bankers-london-boring

    "A recent survey of 360 London bankers by the Boston Consulting Group put Frankfurt in a prime position, ahead of rivals such as Paris, Amsterdam, Dublin or Luxembourg. Its advantages were its central location, sophisticated infrastructure and property prices considerably lower than in London or Paris."

    And

    "Frankfurt itself talks of between 8,000 and 20,000 jobs moving here from London, incrementally. Real estate agents are said to be feverishly fielding property enquiries from companies, with the main question being not so much an interest in prices – which are considerably lower than in London or Paris – but the availability of luxury housing."

    And

    "A recent research paper by Prof Dirk Schiereck of the Technical University in Darmstadt concluded that the merger between the London Stock Exchange and Deutsche Börse (which commissioned the paper) increases the probability of Frankfurt securing a large chunk of post-Brexit spoils. The report predicts the German city will become “the clear European centre for financial market regulation and … the European centre for supranational risk management”."

    It's not over till the fat lady sings.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Tromking
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    You've only been able to show us that stuff hasn't gone wrong yet, not that things will improve. But to be fair, you can't, because nothing has actually happened yet.

    That`s an interesting spin on things you've made there.
    The onus at this moment is surely on the Remain Doomsayers to seek to justify their doom laden predictions, which thus far have proven to be exaggerated to the point of widespread ridicule.
    If and when Brexit is the disaster you think it is, the onus then moves to the Leave voter.
    Not going well for you so far though is it?
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • CLAPTON
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    So May is expecting to talk to Trump about letting US companies get involved in the NHS as part of a trade deal, but apparently she is still committed to making the NHS free at source. Is this the sort of deals we get to look forward to with the US?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-nhs-us-trade-deal-brexit-torture-a7548156.html

    whilst its true that not one of your beloved EU27 have a health service free at the point of use, what is the connection between the ownership of the provision of services and free at the point of use?
  • CLAPTON
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Bad news for Luxembourg!
    Frankfurt look like they will get many of the Banking jobs.
    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/27/frankfurt-brexit-bankers-london-boring

    "A recent survey of 360 London bankers by the Boston Consulting Group put Frankfurt in a prime position, ahead of rivals such as Paris, Amsterdam, Dublin or Luxembourg. Its advantages were its central location, sophisticated infrastructure and property prices considerably lower than in London or Paris."

    And

    "Frankfurt itself talks of between 8,000 and 20,000 jobs moving here from London, incrementally. Real estate agents are said to be feverishly fielding property enquiries from companies, with the main question being not so much an interest in prices – which are considerably lower than in London or Paris – but the availability of luxury housing."

    And

    "A recent research paper by Prof Dirk Schiereck of the Technical University in Darmstadt concluded that the merger between the London Stock Exchange and Deutsche Börse (which commissioned the paper) increases the probability of Frankfurt securing a large chunk of post-Brexit spoils. The report predicts the German city will become “the clear European centre for financial market regulation and … the European centre for supranational risk management”."

    It's not over till the fat lady sings.

    life is an ongoing process and doesn't depend upon when the fat lady sings

    but thanks for another post from you wishing harm to the people of the UK.
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