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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    He's correct though.

    Even if they did vote based on immigration, it's not the individuals they object to but the system that is in place.

    So you're just banging a bigoted drum rather than making any lucid observations as to why people voted how they did.

    In the case of Sunderland, you are definitely correct. It can't be the individuals as very few immigrants live there, could be the Daily Mail though. keeping them well informed.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    Oh another person that thinks they're in charge of defining 'we'. You ought to design a badge for the unbelievers.

    Don't need a badge - look at how many different people picked up on your same comment with the same sort of reply.

    Telling you something?
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Moby wrote: »
    This is the reality of course:-
    Selective scouring of the internet for anything positive re. Brexit is just desperate hissing in the wind:-

    Much better to be optimistic I think - none of your/Remainer doom and gloom has come to pass so far - all you have done is drain yourself of positive energy for months.

    The reality is we are leaving the EU, the single market and part of the customs union - it will be a success - we will make sure of that.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    mrginge wrote: »
    I do think the EU leaders have been slightly wrong footed on this one though.

    Totally isolated themselves. !!!!ed off The Donald, !!!!ed off the Brits - !!!!ed of The Russians....

    ...friendless...
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Moby wrote: »

    one assuming you are referring to Soros' comment

    The future for Europe looked bleak, Soros said, after a disastrous 2016. Europe had become too complicated, leaving people alienated and anti-European parties gathering force.

    certainly something we can all agree on
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    We could use the £25 million daily club fee - Surrey is £170 m short on social care - so 7 days EU club fee would come in handy

    £60 billion to the EU in the next 4 years (if we'd stayed) - whilst Brits are dying on trolleys in NHS hospitals. And we have some of the worst cancer survival rates in the western world.....

    Terrible.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    edited 20 January 2017 at 1:56PM
    Moby wrote: »

    George is a Hungarian. It colours the way he sees the world. And why should he know? Just 'cos he's rich?

    By the way you forgot to mention that he also said this
    EU Faces Disintegration

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-19/george-soros-says-markets-will-falter-as-uncertainty-takes-over
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Is that why you are content to discriminate against the peoples of countries of Black Africa (and about 150 others) in favour of countries that just happen to be white christian european.

    I look after myself first, then my family, I'm more bothered about my next door neighbours than those a few streets over and so on. I'll put my family's needs above those of yours and vice versa I'm sure (call it discriminate if you like). The ethnicity and religion of my priority list has nothing to do it - I'm white and, supposedly, Christian and, surprise surprise, so are my family and most of my neighbours. It's a red herring you use when really it's about proximity.

    Obviously, living on moral mountain, you have more space in your heart for people than I do and have scant regard for their religion and/ or colour which is odd given you can't shut up about people's religion and/ or colour.

    CLAPTON wrote: »
    The belief that exponential population growth is a good thing is madness and in a few years people will look back in amazement at the stupidity.
    Political correctness Group think is a terrible liability and continues to do much harm.

    I think xenophobia played a part in people's referendum decision making process. That doesn't mean the logical conclusion to make is that I'm mad for exponential population growth.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    See, clarified your view of "I think it will be fine but it might not be" (i.e. I won't say anything at all that could catch me out) with another tired insult towards those who voted to leave the EU to ensure, without actually contributing anything or affixing your position, you remain on one side of the debate....

    One of the other things I suffer from is that I can't actually see into the future like everyone else so don't pretend I can.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    Moby wrote: »
    This is the reality of course:-

    The worst thing that can happen is that we end up dealing with the EU on a WTO schedule with EU tariffs - the average EU non-agricultural trade weighed tariff is 2.3 %. Hardly the end of the world.
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