If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Moby wrote: »

This is the reality of course

Ah, the "reality" from someone about to see their country's contribution to EU coffers increase because of Brexit you mean?
Quelle surprise.

mrginge

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Meanwhile I see that Goldman Sachs has just rubbished German reports that they are planning to move from London.
The Germans being less than honest?
Who'd have thought that, eh?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/goldman-sachs-rubbishes-reports-it-moving-jobs-out-london-1601982

The games are all afoot now.
On both sides to be honest.
Lots of talk about about how no deal will be bad for all but (of course) worse for the other side.

I do think the EU leaders have been slightly wrong footed on this one though.
I mean, surely if the 'best' scenario is to keep tariff free and SM rules and that's also the easiest thing to implement, then how do politicians explain to business leaders that actually it would be better to make their lives difficult in the name of some political dogma that's already being questioned across the continent.

The crumb of comfort for U.K. Business is that at least the govt is going to open up new frontiers that can give them alternative tariff free trade.
What's the crumb of comfort for the French/Germans ?
Both sides get all the hassle of maintaining their existing customers.
Both sides possibly have to pay a tariff
But the pound has devalued to a much more competitive level
And EU companies risk being shut out of other countries because we can do future trade deals far quicker and more suitable to us than the EU can even dream about.

If they can't get serious traction into stripping our financial services sector (and not just small fry job transfers before mayo starts blubbing) , then what have they got left?

wotsthat

Anyone suggesting Brexit won't lead to a land of milk, honey and Unicorns has a vested interest. Anyone suggesting it will is a realist.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

Anyone suggesting Brexit won't lead to a land of milk, honey and Unicorns has a vested interest. Anyone suggesting it will is a realist.

How sad.

Apart from a very few posters I have not seen anyone (myself included) who suggests that Brexit will be easy, without possible setbacks or - as you facetiously decided to phrase it - "a land of milk, honey and Unicorns".

Indeed on both sides, leave and remain, it really does appear that most are accepting there will be difficulties ahead even if some are more stoic than others. Also that most are capable of intelligently discerning truth from lies, and possibilities from propaganda.

What a shame it is then that some seem incapable of coherent discussion, preferring instead to persist in the use of divisive and often aggrieved terminology.

gfplux

mayonnaise wrote: »

Advance warning to any EU national browsing this forum.



http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eu-citizens-could-face-new-hate-crime-wave-after-article-50-triggered-warns-watchdog-1601858

Tolerant Britain, 2017.

Not just EU Nationals. There has been some unpleasant remarks made on this forum to Brits who have chosen to leave the Country.

wotsthat

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Apart from a very few posters I have not seen anyone (myself included) who suggests that Brexit will be easy, without possible setbacks or - as you facetiously decided to phrase it - "a land of milk, honey and Unicorns".

Today you've dismissed what the Dutch PM said because he's obviously lying as he's worried about contributions to the EU. You've also taken what Goldman Sachs said as gospel because Germans are dishonest ('quelle surprise' I think you said).

You're drowning in a sea of confirmation bias man.

CLAPTON

The price of many vets are going up ; in particular courgettes are doubling in price

Apparently this is due to the cold weather in southern europe but we can be sure wotshat, moby, toxic et al will be along to explain thats just an example of confirmation bias and hatred of the EU.

One does recognise that the fall in the value of the pound does make imported products more expense

wotsthat

gfplux wrote: »

Not just EU Nationals. There has been some unpleasant remarks made on this forum to Brits who have chosen to leave the Country.

If you say you might leave you're unpatriotic. If you say you'll probably never come back you should take no interest anyway.

However, if you're not on this forum and work in Thailand, Anguilla or Australia you're a plucky Brit extending the UK's global reach.

I leave it to the forum police who seem to have a much better sense of 'we' than I do. They seem to be able to define 'us' and'them' much more easily than me.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

The price of many vets are going up ; in particular courgettes are doubling in price

Apparently this is due to the cold weather in southern europe but we can be sure wotshat, moby, toxic et al will be along to explain thats just an example of confirmation bias and hatred of the EU.

One does recognise that the fall in the value of the pound does make imported products more expense

It is the cold weather in southern Europe and the weak pound isn't it?

Retailers will be delighted because when supply increases they won't be reducing prices to where they were. I'm liking the 'punnets' of raspberries - same price but contain only about 15 raspberries.

10% we've just got away with. The retailers and, it looks like, consumers too have gone for it. Thanks heavens - I was sweating on my next bonus for a while there.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

It is the cold weather in southern Europe and the weak pound isn't it?

Retailers will be delighted because when supply increases they won't be reducing prices to where they were. I'm liking the 'punnets' of raspberries - same price but contain only about 15 raspberries.

10% we've just got away with. The retailers and, it looks like, consumers too have gone for it. Thanks heavens - I was sweating on my next bonus for a while there.

in what way is retailers not reducing prices anything to do with brexit?
did fuel / energy prices always reduce at the same speed they increased prior to 23 june 2016?

but I agree with you that all UK businesses are cheats and crooks while I'm told that all EU27 business people are only concerned with the best interests of the customers.
I'll check that with that nice PM of Holland : I'm sure he will give me a totally objective view.