If we vote for Brexit what happens

setmefree2

Conrad wrote: »

I'm seriously thinking we need to take the initiative, just say we're leaving, WTO with free trade access to our market for 6 months and then it's up to the EU how to take it from there

Definitely not. We will negotiate a great deal. Trump has seen to that.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

Germany's Die Welt newspaper has accused Theresa May of "leading Great Britain into isolation" with her plan for a hard Brexit, as newspapers across continental Europe reacted very differently to those in the UK.

Splashing an image of Ms May across its front page with the headline "Little Britain", Die Welt ran an article online comparing Ms May's tone in Tuesday's speech to that of the last female Tory Prime Minister - Margaret Thatcher - who extolled the virtues of the single market.

Italian daily La Repubblica led with the headline, "Brexit, London gets its wall, 'away from the EU and the common market"'.

It's interesting that they chose to report the speech like that since this doesn't reflect reality. I guess, in saying that Britain wants to leave the EU because we want to be more outward looking in our trade May is also saying that the EU is too inward looking - this must be a difficult message to hear.

I guess, they also don't want to say to voters in the EU - look there is the UK off to do great trade deals when we don't have any and aren't likely to get any in the near future - they might wonder !!!!!! they are doing paying billions into the EU every year?

I'm glad May's speech was reported like this - even though it is clearly biased -it is not in Britain's interests for the EU to fall apart

wotsthat

kabayiri wrote: »

Do you not think the government will try and bribe the regions who showed strong voting swings towards UKIP in the GE, and voting to Leave in the GE?

This is what previous governments have done.

I think PM May has one of the biggest challenges going. She has to try and negotiate a deal with the EU over Brexit whilst also placating divisions amongs't the electorate. If she pulls it off I shall be impressed.

The irony is we're only talking about bribing the regions because Cameron bribed his party with the promise of a referendum to see off UKIP in the GE.

..and here we are having voted to leave the EU and the Tories are still worried about a party which effectively had only one reason to be?

I'll be more impressed with May if she stands up to the frothers on the right of her party.

setmefree2

davomcdave wrote: »

I'm sure it doesn't matter and is all just a part of Project Fear. After all, the opportunities realised by Brexit will quickly swamp the loss in taxes and GDP caused by losing a few thousand well paid jobs in The City.

I have watched a lot of Davos CEO speeches this week - nobody is saying lots of jobs are going to leave London......

setmefree2

With all countries and Davos Man wanting to show they are pro-free trade and globalisation - what better way to do it than sign a FTA - with the UK!

UK having informal trade talks with at least 12 countries, says Fox

International trade secretary says ‘dozens of countries’ are preparing to expand trading links with UK once it has left EU

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/19/uk-having-informal-trade-talks-with-at-least-12-countries-says-fox

Sapphire

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The UK remains one of the richest, most powerful and fastest-growing countries on earth because we adapt to the changes brought about by problems like those listed above. Why should the loss of a few bankers be any different?

Yes, and I think some people underestimate (or simply don't know) just how long our traditions of trading and banking are. I certainly didn't until studying the history of London. Barclays and other banks that still exist today were founded soon after the Great Fire of 1666, as was the Bank of England. The name 'gilts' comes from the original practice (of the early 1700s) of putting real gold borders around bonds. There are still trading and other organisations and companies in London that existed here in the Medieval period. The (free) superb Granville lectures have been held in the City of London for c. 1,500 years and are linked to trade, etc.

No other country has the unbroken traditions and expertise there are in London (not to mention the continuous dynamism of London, and its ever-changing nature). It would be very difficult to 'relocate' such things to countries on the Continent, which have no such traditions, or often even such long, unbroken histories. I would imagine some financial organisations might move offices to other countries, but cannot see them doing so in a major way.

setmefree2

Moscovici: Brexit Negotiations Will Be Clear, Clean and Friendly

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-01-19/moscovici-brexit-negotiations-will-be-clear-clean


EU Commissioner for Economic and Financial Affairs Pierre Moscovici, discusses Brexit negotiations, populism and his worries about German exporters. He speaks to Bloomberg's Francine Lacqua on "Bloomberg Daybreak: Europe" from the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. (Source: Bloomberg)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

The EU aren't worried.
No, not at all.
(If you believe some posters here in these forums, that is.)

Yet the EU are looking into how to minimise risk to EU companies and economies post-Brexit:

Sky News understands that the Association for Financial Markets in Europe (AFME) has commissioned Boston Consulting Group to examine ways to minimise Brexit's repercussions for the companies and economies of the remaining 27 EU member states.

http://news.sky.com/story/financial-markets-body-to-probe-brexit-risk-to-eu-27-10734300

setmefree2

The WTO on Brexit and Trade

1/18/2017 4:12PM Roberto Azevêdo, director general of the World Trade Organization, discussed how the U.K. may negotiate deals with the WTO in a post-Brexit environment, in a conversation with WSJ's Stephen Fidler in Davos.



http://www.wsj.com/video/the-wto-on-brexit-and-trade/3A749374-D6C2-4B6E-B6AB-BC3B2B656AEF.html

davomcdave

kabayiri wrote: »

Do you not think the government will try and bribe the regions who showed strong voting swings towards UKIP in the GE, and voting to Leave in the GE?

In the South East where they are challenging Tory seats most certainly. If you look at the seats where UKIP could mount a reasonable challenge most in the SE are either run down seaside resorts which have been a dumping ground for refugees or former SE industrial places. I can see a whole heap of money flowing into places like that.

As for the places up North? I think the Tories want UKIP to do very well in the North. It's not like the Tories are going to benefit from Labour faltering in northern seats. I think the Tories might well go for a policy for malign neglect of the North.