If we vote for Brexit what happens

Graham_Devon

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Wnich is pretty rich coming from a UKIP supporter:

I have said before. I've never voted UKIP. I voted Labour in the last election.

Treat me with contempt all you like. But don't make things up in order to do so. That's just rude.

I voted to leave the EU. That doesn't translate to a UKIP supporter anymore than voting for Labour, Lib Dems or Tory makes you a supporter of the EU.

wotsthat

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

That's why you examine what opinions are based on.

My opinion as a leave voter is in no way related to hatred or dislike of foreigners. I'm married to one, and we've many friends who are foreigners because of that.

I've seen no evidence from people I know who voted to leave that says a dislike of foreigners drove their choice to vote, if you were to ask them about the immigration system you'll certainly see a dislike for that.

Quite, people are bothered about what other people think about them so will rarely say 'I'm a bit xenophobic'. Instead they'll say some of my best friends are foreign and so on.

To be honest you're getting a bit upset because you think I'm calling you a racist when I'm making a more general point. I don't know you at all but I do know that at the last GE 12% of the electorate voted UKIP and, probably, that number would've been higher without the referendum promise. I'm happy enough with my opinion,

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I voted to leave the EU. That doesn't translate to a UKIP supporter anymore than voting for Labour, Lib Dems or Tory makes you a supporter of the EU.

I remember you wanted to vote UKIP and were disappointed they didn't offer a candidate in your constituency.

So yes you might not have voted UKIP but you certainly supported them. Post truth?

wotsthat

mayonnaise wrote: »

Herd mentality?

Same mentality that uses applause on question time or 'thanks' to judge whether a point is correct or not.

wotsthat

setmefree2 wrote: »

Put her/him on ignore - It's Bliss.

It wasn't so long ago that my view of brexit was sunnier than yours. Mine hasn't changed by the way,

mayonnaise

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I've never voted UKIP.

wotsthat wrote: »

Post truth?

Looks like it.

Graham_Devon wrote:

I voted UKIP in the EU elections

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=65626127&postcount=103

:wave:

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

wotsthat wrote: »

I remember you wanted to vote UKIP and were disappointed they didn't offer a candidate in your constituency.

So yes you might not have voted UKIP but you certainly supported them. Post truth?

"Post truth" isn't just another way of saying something is not true.

wotsthat

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

"Post truth" isn't just another way of saying something is not true.

I know. In Graham's case I used it to imply that he was being only partly truthful when, in fact, he was blatantly lying.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

Quite, people are bothered about what other people think about them so will rarely say 'I'm a bit xenophobic'. Instead they'll say some of my best friends are foreign and so on.

I'm getting a little tired of your use of the "xenophobe" card so look here:

wotsthat wrote: »

I look after myself first, then my family, I'm more bothered about my next door neighbours than those a few streets over and so on. I'll put my family's needs above those of yours and vice versa I'm sure (call it discriminate if you like). The ethnicity and religion of my priority list has nothing to do it - I'm white and, supposedly, Christian and, surprise surprise, so are my family and most of my neighbours. It's a red herring you use when really it's about proximity.

Obviously, living on moral mountain, you have more space in your heart for people than I do and have scant regard for their religion and/ or colour which is odd given you can't shut up about people's religion and/ or colour.

I think xenophobia played a part in people's referendum decision making process. That doesn't mean the logical conclusion to make is that I'm mad for exponential population growth.

Do you see your very first line in the above quote?
Right, now a definition of xenophobia from the Oxford English dictionary:

[mass noun] Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries:

See that?

So if, from your own wording above, you prioritize who you "look after" as you describe in the quote above that very clearly makes you the xenophobe by your own admission.
In fact almost every one of us is xenophobic to one degree or another.
It is rapidly becoming an irrelevant word. (Like the overused "racist" IMHO.)

Now if you are going to continue attempts at what you think are derogatory comments you really should firstly understand fully what a word means, and secondly not implicate yourself as a candidate for the terminology you just used.

In other words, try not to drop yourself in it.

kabayiri

All this xenophobic commentary does is push peoples' voting intentions underground, so to speak.

People won't readily admit to voting UKIP. This leaves the pollsters with a bit of a problem doesn't it?

I freely admit to preferring immigrants from some parts of the world over others. The world is awash with potential migrants, so we can afford to be choosy I reckon.