If we vote for Brexit what happens

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Boris Johnson: U.K. will make 'Titanic success' of Brexit

Prime Minister Theresa May put her head in her hands in response to Johnson's statement, according to media reports.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/11/03/boris-johnson-uk-make-titanic-success-brexit/93227134/

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Filo25

If the Supreme Court upholds this then it does create an interesting position in parliament.

In the end of the day I may be a Remainer myself, but I fully recognise most people voted for Leave, and we believe most constituencies had a majority of Leave voters, so for most MPs whatever their personal feelings are it would be very dangerous to vote against invoking Article 50.

So I would say the good news for Theresa May is that she can probably get an Article 50 vote through parliament, the bad news for her is she may need to make a lot of concessions to parliament to win that vote.

Rather than outright opposing Article 50 its a lot easier for MPs to justify saying they will only vote for it, with a laundry list of conditions about parliamentary oversight of the entire process in place, that is harder to pain as some sort of anti-democratic coup by Parliament.

Certainly the likelihood of a "softer" Brexit must have risen today.

Herzlos

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Whichever way it goes now the MP's and Peers either go with or against the majority of the country.

Against the majority of voters in the country, not against the majority of the country.

They need to vote for what they feel will be in the best interests of all of their constituents, and not just the tiny majority that voted out.

setmefree2

I have to say I 100% agree with this.

Don’t blame Brexit for the plunging pound and rising inequality – it’s the fault of Mark Carney

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/pound-falls-brexit-mark-carney-bank-of-england-leaving-inequality-house-prices-left-behind-a7393236.html

Herzlos

roddydogs wrote: »

What do you forecast the vote?

It'll be less close than the referendum, and we'll have an actual, concrete conclusion. Half of the country won't like it and will claim that democracy is dead, because they aren't getting their own way.

kabayiri

There is actually plenty of wasted space on a ballot paper.

So we should max it really...

Let's have :-

- a GE vote
- another EU ref vote
- sure, stick Scottish indy ref on there, keep the SNP happy
- a vote to get out of the Human Rights club
- should Simon Cowell be put out to pasture
- winner of Strictly

The pollsters will love it.

TrickyTree83

Herzlos wrote: »

Against the majority of voters in the country, not against the majority of the country.

They need to vote for what they feel will be in the best interests of all of their constituents, and not just the tiny majority that voted out.

Sorry, yes being semantically correct it's the majority of voters that turned out.

I wouldn't go as far as to suggest they should be looking out for the interests of everyone within their constituency, that's an impossibility solely on the topic of EU membership let alone anything else.

i.e. if one of your constituents wants all chocolate to be brown, and another wants it all to be white, whom do you represent in such a binary situation? That's what we've got with Brexit, a binary situation. One or the other.

I would think the pragmatic approach would be to follow the pattern of the referendum result in their constituency.

Having said that, it would be difficult to claim what Leave means, for example in my constituency I would be someone who would want to be represented as wanting to join the EEA/EFTA set up.

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

If the Supreme Court upholds this then it does create an interesting position in parliament.

In the end of the day I may be a Remainer myself, but I fully recognise most people voted for Leave, and we believe most constituencies had a majority of Leave voters, so for most MPs whatever their personal feelings are it would be very dangerous to vote against invoking Article 50.

So I would say the good news for Theresa May is that she can probably get an Article 50 vote through parliament, the bad news for her is she may need to make a lot of concessions to parliament to win that vote.

Rather than outright opposing Article 50 its a lot easier for MPs to justify saying they will only vote for it, with a laundry list of conditions about parliamentary oversight of the entire process in place, that is harder to pain as some sort of anti-democratic coup by Parliament.

Certainly the likelihood of a "softer" Brexit must have risen today.

Or she could just call an election and win by a million miles.

Conrad

If May calls an early election thanks to a snotty fund manager and her be-wigged Men in stockings, the people will give May a thumping majority, job done.


Without a General Election you may find remain MP's thwarting a worthwhile Brexit, and once again the establishment get the result the Men of Brussels demand. I have a hunch the people would lose all faith in politicians and we would end up with a 'far right' Government

ruggedtoast

Hahahahah the Daily Mail is in meltdown. 6000 comments already.

Hahahahah haha hahahahah!

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