If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

The E.U. is very far from perfect but it makes Brexit look like rampant disregard to the U.K.'s well being in a multi pronged attack on economics, security, social progress, world standing, moral stance, tolerance, common sense and unity both within and with other crucially important neighbours.

What drivel. Talk facts not ideological claptrap.

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

We are going to see a lot of this deluded upper class.....blah blah blah...in the next months.

Ah all is revealed another closet socialist from the 70's.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

It will need more investment to bring on line more trees during the next few years.

An opportunity to expand. Like any other industry where there's now market share up for grabs. Will overseas growers continue to invest should be the question you are asking. As trees grow the market shrinks so stock will be dumped if not sold.

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

There some difficult decisions facing UK Christmas tree growers.

It will need more investment to bring on line more trees during the next few years. (Trees are not like water that you turn the tap on) The opportunity in the market is caused by the weak pound. Will the pound remain at these levels, go lower or regain its pre Brexit value. Will overseas growers lower their prices to hold on to market share???
This is called uncertainty in the market.
It makes it very difficult to make those type of decisions. Should the tree grower gamble? Perhaps it's a sure thing!

seems to be a strong plea for fixed exchange rates : should we gamble with them?

ruggedtoast

The pound plummeting.

Vauxhall facing a $400 million loss jeopardising 7500 uk jobs.

Nissan threatening to pull out of the UK unless we write them a blank cheque to stay.

Hate fueled violence on the streets as UKIP BREXIT thugs take their tiny minded anger out on foreigners.

And university applications from Europe down 9℅.

Another great day in Brexit Britain.

Thanks Brexitwits.

TrickyTree83

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Ah all is revealed another closet socialist from the 70's.

I'd sussed that one out in his first 5 posts.

He went full hysteria on about the 3rd or 4th post.

RuggedToast v2.0

A_Medium_Size_Jock

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I'd sussed that one out in his first 5 posts.

He went full hysteria on about the 3rd or 4th post.

RuggedToast v2.0

:T
Yes, and talking of Toxic Toastie and the negative propaganda he continually rants here is real, factual (note factual Toastie) news of what is REALLY happening:

Compared with the third quarter of last year, growth picked up to 2.3 percent, the strongest pace in more than a year, according to the preliminary figures from the Office for National Statistics.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-economy-idUKKCN12R0TU

Meanwhile in the EU .............

If certain members of the European Union introduce borders to prevent the movement of asylum seekers, Italy is within its rights to withhold its funding to the EU budget, Prime Minister Matteo Renzi has said.

https://www.rt.com/news/364227-italy-eu-migrants-money/

Whilst, regarding CETA:

The European Union's inability to complete a trade agreement with Canada is an embarrassment and could harm its ability to negotiate future deals, a European Parliament vice president said

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-canada-trade-lambsdorff-idUKKCN12R0PI?il=0

And in Germany:

Preparing to face the voters again in 2017, Chancellor Angela Merkel has had to deal with an onslaught of challenges over the past year, from the Greek debt crisis to an upsurge in far-right populism to a rebellion in her own Christian Democratic Party over her open-door policy for Syrian refugees.But it’s unlikely that Ms. Merkel was expecting a problem on another front, a problem that could damage not only her electoral prospects but Germany’s global image as a model of economic quality, financial conservatism and market efficiency: the soundness and future of the country’s flagship financial institution, Deutsche Bank.
“When you think of Germany, you don’t tend to think of failing banks,” said Todd Williamson III, a senior fellow with the Atlantic Institute, a nonpartisan Berlin think tank. “It doesn’t help the case for Germany, which has been stable and is the financial and economic leader in Europe.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/23/angela-merkel-weighs-bailout-as-deutsche-bank-turm/

And that is just a few of many possible examples.
Yup, all is looking oh-so-rosy in EU land isn't it Toxic?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Yamumuk wrote: »

Meantime investment is on hold that will have very big impact on us in forthcoming months and years.

I think your view on her paralysis is rather optimistic and over thought, I think it much simpler and worrying she is now understanding that she is expected to deliver the impossible and this is why I think Brexiters are in for a very big disappointment. In short, she is sh***** it.

That is not what evidence is pointing to so far.
Despite a barrage of doom-mongering.

Compared with the third quarter of last year, growth picked up to 2.3 percent, the strongest pace in more than a year, according to the preliminary figures from the Office for National Statistics.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-economy-idUKKCN12R0TU

Methinks you need to open you eyes a little and see the reality - NOT the prophecies of doom.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

That is not what evidence is pointing to so far.
Despite a barrage of doom-mongering.

You do realise that..... Oh, hang on, obviously you don't.

Investment decisions are planned well in advance.

The investment projects most businesses were delivering last quarter were signed off at least 12-18 months ago and in many cases a number of years further back.

It will take time for that pipeline to dry up - but unless the govt can provide assurances to business (like the guarantee of compensation for tariffs rumoured to be offered to Nissan last week) then dry up it will.

This rampant smugness of the Brexiteers while looking at figures which were all but baked in pre-referendum is likely to come back and bite them hard once the changes to business confidence actually flow through into the data next year and the year after.;)

TrickyTree83

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

You do realise that..... Oh, hang on, obviously you don't.

Investment decisions are planned well in advance.

The investment projects most businesses were delivering last quarter were signed off at least 12-18 months ago and in many cases a number of years further back.

It will take time for that pipeline to dry up - but unless the govt can provide assurances to business (like the guarantee of compensation for tariffs rumoured to be offered to Nissan last week) then dry up it will.

This rampant smugness of the Brexiteers while looking at figures which were all but baked in pre-referendum is likely to come back and bite them hard once the changes to business confidence actually flow through into the data next year and the year after.;)

And yet I get pilloried for saying we need to wait until there is a sufficient amount of information before anyone can say it was the right or wrong decision, including by you?

Contradictory?