If we vote for Brexit what happens

The_Last_Username

Yamumuk wrote: »

What did big businesses say when they spoke to her is a more important question, the answer is she did not.

When she last addressed the nation she said leaving the common market was likely so we can kick some E.U. nationals out, some months remaining was very clearly suggested as being best. So she clearly has no idea whatsoever. There is no plan and no idea and I suspect Brexit just won't happen.

I think it will be a case of "We cannot do Brexit at any cost" There will be a cost beyond which Brexit will be untenable as a decision by a competent and by someone who should have the best interest of the U.K. to heart. Did you see that?... I just managed to write a sentence with Brexit and competent in it, 2 terms that are clearly impossible bed fellows.

Even Corbyn who works opposite her has no idea, if anyone would know it's him.

Eh?
Do you think that you could maybe re-write that so that:
1/ It makes sense?
2/ We can understand it?

Because at the moment it is pure gibberish.

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

Brexit is finished as a concept I reckon. It's an idea and nothing else.

Just like life. It's what you make of the options available that determines ones own future. If you had said that the EU is an unworkable concept you would have been spot on. As the cracks are somewhat visible. Though politicians seem to ignore them in the hope they'll simply get papered over. A concept which in itself is doomed to failure.

The_Last_Username

Yamumuk wrote: »

You can choose to stop eating sh** However you cannot stop nuclear power stations and benzene and other carcinogens from car fumes. Worry about things you have no control over, like Brexit for example... take back control they said... yeah right, that'll be happening, fat lot of control you have over Brexit right now.

Brexit is finished as a concept I reckon. It's an idea and nothing else.

Uh-huh.
In which case maybe it is a good idea that it is only what you reckon - and not the reality that it seems is happening around you that you just are not seeing.

kinger101

Back to your original post, I'm not sure you know what a fact is. What you've written is entirely speculation. I think we'll get better than WTO terms, but I'm much less optimistic about the deal we'll get now CETA has collapsed. I originally believed that the negotiations would depend on the 27 leaders of the EU nations, but now it seems anyone in Belgium who owns a cow can veto it as well. I think you've made an incorrect assumption that this will play out rationally.

For what it's worth, I think May is going about this the right way. If we can't get the banking passport, she can cut corporation tax to 10%. Can't see banks wanting to move to Paris, or bankers to Frankfurt anyway.

mrginge

kinger101 wrote: »

For what it's worth, I think May is going about this the right way. If we can't get the banking passport, she can cut corporation tax to 10%. Can't see banks wanting to move to Paris, or bankers to Frankfurt anyway.

I think she's playing it exactly the way it needs to be.
Say very little, prepare people and businesses for the worst case scenario. In a political negotiation with the EU there is no certainty of any agreement and she has to work on that basis.

Under-commit and aim to over-deliver.

Exact opposite of Cameron who promised the earth and delivered **** all.

Moby

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Just like life. It's what you make of the options available that determines ones own future. If you had said that the EU is an unworkable concept you would have been spot on. As the cracks are somewhat visible. Though politicians seem to ignore them in the hope they'll simply get papered over. A concept which in itself is doomed to failure.

Life for humans is about co-operation. The best conception of co-operation locally for the UK is the EU, (cracks exist everywhere in life!). We have chosen to walk away from that venture and over the coming years we will pay the price.

Yamumuk

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Just like life. It's what you make of the options available that determines ones own future. If you had said that the EU is an unworkable concept you would have been spot on. As the cracks are somewhat visible. Though politicians seem to ignore them in the hope they'll simply get papered over. A concept which in itself is doomed to failure.

The E.U. is very far from perfect but it makes Brexit look like rampant disregard to the U.K.'s well being in a multi pronged attack on economics, security, social progress, world standing, moral stance, tolerance, common sense and unity both within and with other crucially important neighbours.

And someone mentioned WW3 despite Brexit not having happened yet. Probably a time where focus on things other than Brexit might be best. You cannot blame remainers for wondering if Brexmongers can read actual news given the shockingly silly commentary that spurts out of their mouths.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/27/uk-to-deploy-hundreds-of-troops-and-aircraft-to-eastern-europe

I am gonna buy a hat for my new sunglasses, and if Brexit happens I will eat it. It is simply not going to happen because politicians know it is a case of suicide if it does.

Yamumuk

Meantime investment is on hold that will have very big impact on us in forthcoming months and years.

I think your view on her paralysis is rather optimistic and over thought, I think it much simpler and worrying she is now understanding that she is expected to deliver the impossible and this is why I think Brexiters are in for a very big disappointment. In short, she is sh***** it.

Yamumuk

Also is there some kind of thought blockage in upper class people's minds? Afterall - that is who is "adminstering" your Brexit by the way, so much for the self congratulatory term : The peasants revolt - where they are incapable of seeing the harsh reality that actually the E.U.no longer care about us because we are nowhere as significant as we think we are. How awkward we look and feel right now globally.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/26/eus-tough-post-brexit-stance-puts-politics-over-prosperity-says-liam-fox

We are going to see a lot of this deluded upper class.....blah blah blah...in the next months.

Brexit is on the back burner, where it rightly belongs.

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

:snow_grin:rudolf::xmassmile:santa2::xmastree:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-37772190

There some difficult decisions facing UK Christmas tree growers.

It will need more investment to bring on line more trees during the next few years. (Trees are not like water that you turn the tap on) The opportunity in the market is caused by the weak pound. Will the pound remain at these levels, go lower or regain its pre Brexit value. Will overseas growers lower their prices to hold on to market share???
This is called uncertainty in the market.
It makes it very difficult to make those type of decisions. Should the tree grower gamble? Perhaps it's a sure thing!