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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Herzlos wrote: »
    I'm also sure that if the leave campaign hadn't lied about pretty much everything we wouldn't have to waste time on a Brexit too :beer:
    Ok wheres are emergency budject, eorld war 3 ,, shares will go down ..no invest quote from the commentator,
    Keep your eye on the ball. Every lie, every distortion, every piece of scaremongering from the EU Remain camp is aimed at one thing: to overturn the result of a free and fair referendum of the British people on our membership of the European Union.

    These scoundrels will stop at nothing, as we saw during the campaign itself. And if, in order to smash the will of the people, they have to whip up such a frenzy that there is an outbreak of xenophobia and even racism, their attitude is this: so be it.

    Make no mistake about it. They're sowing fear and division in order to create a pretext for either running another referendum or, better still, getting parliament to ignore the one we've just had.

    Think about it. Even after a full Brexit, Britain will still have one of the most liberal immigration policies in the world. Indeed, it will be far more liberal than the European Union's which blatantly discriminates in favour of a predominantly Caucasian Europe and against a predominantly non-Caucasian world.

    Yes, there are nut jobs on the Brexit side, as there are on the Remain side. But the Brexit case is largely internationalist. Put another way, we Brexiteers are quintessentially anti-xenophobic. It is the white-world-Europeanists who have the case to answer on the racism and xenophobia score which is why so many in the Afro-Caribbean and Asian community voted Brexit.

    Remainers based their entire campaign on utterly dishonest scaremongering. Most of the lies they told have already been blown out of the water. For example, it took George Osborne barely 24 hours to admit that he wouldn't, after all, be holding an emergency budget. He knew he was lying when he made the threat.

    (Contrary to claims, the FTSE 100 has soared after the referendum, while European stock markets have tanked. It was supposed to be the other way around. This is why the "experts" that got everything wrong prior to the Great Recession of 2007/8 are rightly distrusted by sensible and reasoned observers.)

    Those calling the Remainers sore losers are dangerously wrong. These people don't think it's over. They don't yet think they've lost.

    By haunting immigrants with the fear they're going to be deported by the evil Brexiteers (and thus energising the racists), they're hoping to create precisely the atmosphere in which the referendum can be voided...
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • Yamumuk wrote: »
    I suspect a drop in safety standards.
    From the EU? You may be correct, see below; and
    Herzlos wrote: »
    I never said the EU was perfect, obviously it isn't.
    No it most certainly is not.
    With the EU it depends how much (ahem) "influence" you can bring to bear, NOT upon need or morals.
    As the below from today about dropping a law to limit a cancer-linked chemical in foods clearly shows:
    leaked documents revealing the legislative retreat show “undue influence” by the food industry over EU law-making and a “permanent scandal”
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/26/eu-drops-law-to-limit-cancer-linked-chemical-acrylamide-food-after-industry-complaint

    In a word, disgraceful.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    From the EU? You may be correct, see below; and

    No it most certainly is not.
    With the EU it depends how much (ahem) "influence" you can bring to bear, NOT upon need or morals.
    As the below from today about dropping a law to limit a cancer-linked chemical in foods clearly shows:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/26/eu-drops-law-to-limit-cancer-linked-chemical-acrylamide-food-after-industry-complaint

    In a word, disgraceful.

    That'll be those lobbyists that I was told "are a minor concern" by those most learned pro-EU posters on here.

    The lobbyists who reside in a political institution that doesn't make transparency mandatory, but has a transparency register :A
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    prosaver wrote: »
    Ok wheres are emergency budject, eorld war 3 ,, shares will go down ..no invest quote from the commentator,
    Keep your eye on the ball. Every lie, every distortion, every piece of scaremongering from the EU Remain camp is aimed at one thing: to overturn the result of a free and fair referendum of the British people on our membership of the European Union.

    These scoundrels will stop at nothing, as we saw during the campaign itself. And if, in order to smash the will of the people, they have to whip up such a frenzy that there is an outbreak of xenophobia and even racism, their attitude is this: so be it.

    Make no mistake about it. They're sowing fear and division in order to create a pretext for either running another referendum or, better still, getting parliament to ignore the one we've just had.

    Think about it. Even after a full Brexit, Britain will still have one of the most liberal immigration policies in the world. Indeed, it will be far more liberal than the European Union's which blatantly discriminates in favour of a predominantly Caucasian Europe and against a predominantly non-Caucasian world.

    Yes, there are nut jobs on the Brexit side, as there are on the Remain side. But the Brexit case is largely internationalist. Put another way, we Brexiteers are quintessentially anti-xenophobic. It is the white-world-Europeanists who have the case to answer on the racism and xenophobia score which is why so many in the Afro-Caribbean and Asian community voted Brexit.

    Remainers based their entire campaign on utterly dishonest scaremongering. Most of the lies they told have already been blown out of the water. For example, it took George Osborne barely 24 hours to admit that he wouldn't, after all, be holding an emergency budget. He knew he was lying when he made the threat.

    (Contrary to claims, the FTSE 100 has soared after the referendum, while European stock markets have tanked. It was supposed to be the other way around. This is why the "experts" that got everything wrong prior to the Great Recession of 2007/8 are rightly distrusted by sensible and reasoned observers.)

    Those calling the Remainers sore losers are dangerously wrong. These people don't think it's over. They don't yet think they've lost.

    By haunting immigrants with the fear they're going to be deported by the evil Brexiteers (and thus energising the racists), they're hoping to create precisely the atmosphere in which the referendum can be voided...

    Brexit did not happen yet.
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    From the EU? You may be correct, see below; and

    No it most certainly is not.
    With the EU it depends how much (ahem) "influence" you can bring to bear, NOT upon need or morals.
    As the below from today about dropping a law to limit a cancer-linked chemical in foods clearly shows:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/26/eu-drops-law-to-limit-cancer-linked-chemical-acrylamide-food-after-industry-complaint

    In a word, disgraceful.

    Did you know this is present in any meat you grill or fry at high temperature ?
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    I am writing and recording a Brexit song. I have most of the lyrics in place, still a toss-up between various chorus lines though.


    It centres on the theme of the all knowing, remain gloom monger seeking to put people right, in vain.

    Is about Brexit or remaining then ? Sounds like it more about remaining you closet remain monger !

    Could you be more specific and in keeping with your opinion and please tell me when my bank account will fill with post Brexit cash ? When will my post Brexit money come Conrad ? :D
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    Masomnia wrote: »
    What British legislation, if any, did it replace?

    The only thing that springs to mind is "Reactolight Rapide" for some reason.
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    edited 26 October 2016 at 7:49PM
    What did big businesses say when they spoke to her is a more important question, the answer is she did not.

    When she last addressed the nation she said leaving the common market was likely so we can kick some E.U. nationals out, some months remaining was very clearly suggested as being best. So she clearly has no idea whatsoever. There is no plan and no idea and I suspect Brexit just won't happen.

    I think it will be a case of "We cannot do Brexit at any cost" There will be a cost beyond which Brexit will be untenable as a decision by a competent and by someone who should have the best interest of the U.K. to heart. Did you see that?... I just managed to write a sentence with Brexit and competent in it, 2 terms that are clearly impossible bed fellows.

    Even Corbyn who works opposite her has no idea, if anyone would know it's him.
  • Yamumuk wrote: »
    Did you know this is present in any meat you grill or fry at high temperature ?
    Yes I did.
    As the article I link to clearly explains.
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    edited 26 October 2016 at 7:57PM
    You can choose to stop eating sh** However you cannot stop nuclear power stations and benzene and other carcinogens from car fumes. Worry about things you have no control over, like Brexit for example... take back control they said... yeah right, that'll be happening, fat lot of control you have over Brexit right now.

    Brexit is finished as a concept I reckon. It's an idea and nothing else.
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