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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,223 Forumite
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    It is an interesting one - for the Remoaners it highlights how dysfunctional the EU is and therefore how unlikely it is that we will be able to do a trade deal.

    For the Brixiteers it demonstrates how dysfunctional the EU is and how we are better off out of the club striking our own deals with the rest of the world.
    I think....
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Because Canada is, well... Canada.

    The UK is the UK. If self interest determines the outcome within the EU it will. Some regional Government isn't going to care.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Apart from Daniel Hannon I can't think of one prominent Leave campaigner who didn't say that wanted the UK to take back control of our trade deals - that means leaving the single market. So, they were all saying they wanted the UK to leave the single market and the customs union....

    Negotiating our own trade deals and tariff free access to the single market are separate issues. We were told that we could do both and remove free movement.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    presumably canadian trade negotiators have a lot of spare time : they could usefully start chatting to the UK
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Negotiating our own trade deals and tariff free access to the single market are separate issues. We were told that we could do both and remove free movement.

    It's entirely possible to do both.

    If it's not, someone ought to inform Norway and Switzerland they're doing it wrong.
  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    edited 21 October 2016 at 6:52PM
    Conrad wrote: »
    On QT last night, as but one example, Ken Clarke and the Labour MP were angling to stay in the SM, which necessarily means accepting the 4 freedoms, thus in the EU to all intents.


    People like Clegg want a Norway style deal, because they know one day the liberal set would use this as a jumping board back into full membership (as some Norwegian Liberals have been attempting)

    This is very worrying as this only adds to the confusion and uncertainty.
    The sooner everyone is on the same page and Britain gets out as soon as possible.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    We will never be on the same page. End of.
  • Moto2
    Moto2 Posts: 2,206 Forumite
    gfplux wrote: »
    This is very worrying as this only adds to the confusion and uncertainty.
    The sooner everyone is on the same page and Britain gets out as soon as possible.

    As above, it'll never happen
    The whole Brexit thing is so divisive, there'll never be any consensus for many years (if ever)
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    It's an interesting question.

    Now if we are to believe the official government line, Brexit was basically just about immigration, it certainly wasn't about things like pumping an extra £350m a week into the NHS.

    The whole approach looks more like a party political calculation to hoover up the UKIP voters from that particular rotting political carcass than anything else.
    that reminds me of this clip (theres a little bit off swearing)
    like, Nigel ..what are you going to now..?:):)
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • Either the EU can force governments to comply or the EU can not force them to comply - Wallonia indicates the latter is true.

    When a giant trade deal can be vetoed by a tiny Belgian province until it gets the changes it wants it makes a mockery of all the anti-EU rhetoric about loss of sovereignty and loss of control.

    But yes, it also makes a mockery of the more panglossian and naive pro-Brexit posters who spent ages telling us the Uk could conclude a trade deal with the EU in just two years....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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