If we vote for Brexit what happens

Ballard

The Wallonia issue shouldn't be a surprise and we should expect several of these types of issues over the coming years. The fact that a unanimous vote is required for EU deals gives a lot of power to the likes of Wallonia, Malta, Cyprus & Lithuania (not that I've got anything against any of these countries).

However much Germany or France might want a particular deal it can be black balled by a small state who can hold any deal up simply to try to get something for their country. Quite frankly it's their job to get the best deal for their state as they can so they'd be short changing their citizens if they didn't.

gfplux

Conrad wrote: »

A small Belgian state is the latest in a long line of examples of squabbling disparate EU parties being unable to agree the EU - Canada trade deal.


A key Leave argument told us bi-lateral trade deals are the future, much easier to bring about...

Big bloc multilateral trade deals are on the wane, yesterdays idea, even Trump knows this.

What was wrong with the EU was it was NOT Democratic. Now you say it has TOO MUCH Democracy.
Anyway it does not matter as Britain is leaving. The sooner the better.

setmefree2

StevieJ wrote: »

Very few leave campaigners mentioned leaving the Single market as a means of controlling immigration or retaining sovereignty as they rightly perceived that it may raise serious economic considerations. The phrase 'cake and eat it' readily springs to mind :-)

You're a Remainer right? Both David Cameron and George Osbourne said that if we voted to leave the EU that meant leave the single market. So it was said by Remainers and it was said by Leavers. I don't get why there is all this confusion.

setmefree2

And she (Theresa May) made clear that she intends to negotiate trade deals ahead of Britain's formal exit from the EU, despite threats of legal action from Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/21/theresa-may-to-hold-talks-with-jean-claude-juncker-after-series/

wotsthat

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Makes a mockery of the EU you mean. As there's no control. Just anarchy.

Are you moving away from your oft mentioned idea that Germany and France dictate policy then?

wotsthat

cogito wrote: »

Clearly there is a message here that if an open, modern, business friendly country like Canada cannot strike a deal with the EU, no other countries can. It's taken seven years of negotiations between the EU and Canada to come to naught so why would other countries even bother to try. And I include the UK in that.

Really? This makes you think it's not worth bothering the UK trying to secure a deal which might be better than just walking away in a flounce?

So much for the sweet deal.

setmefree2

What could happen if the Article 50 legal challenge is successful?
The high court has been hearing arguments about whether or not the government has the authority to trigger Article 50 without parliament’s approval. But it is uncertain what impact a verdict against them could have

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/22/what-could-happen-if-the-article-50-legal-challenge-is-successful

To be honest I think any delay in triggering Article 50 helps the Brexiters get their ducks in a row. After all, some Brexiters, like Gove, actually wanted a two year run up to Artcile 50 being triggered. Also if May has a bigger majority in the HoC if an election is held - this will help the Brexiters too.

Some see the kicking the Heathrow decision to the back end of 2017 as a sign that May thinks there will be an election early 2017.

prowla

Well, Wallonia produces some of Belgium's great beers (including Rochefort, Chimay & Orval); I'm sure they'd be happy to see themselves priced out of the UK market.

(They also rely on a lot of fishing, which would presumably cease to be so accessible with the change of border as the UK's land-mass is no longer part of the EU.)

wotsthat

setmefree2 wrote: »

To be honest I think any delay in triggering Article 50 helps the Brexiters get their ducks in a row. After all, some Brexiters, like Gove, actually wanted a two year run up to Artcile 50 being triggered. Also if May has a bigger majority in the HoC if an election is held - this will help the Brexiters too.

Any delay makes the Brexiteers nervous that defeat might be clutched from the jaws of victory. We need to get on with it and give them the immigration curbs they crave.

At that point they might relax and leave the grown ups to sort out the rest of the mess.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Any delay makes the Brexiteers nervous that defeat might be clutched from the jaws of victory. We need to get on with it and give them the immigration curbs they crave.

At that point they might relax and leave the grown ups to sort out the rest of the mess.

you crave immigration controls you hypocrite.