If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

A small Belgian state is the latest in a long line of examples of squabbling disparate EU parties being unable to agree the EU - Canada trade deal.


A key Leave argument told us bi-lateral trade deals are the future, much easier to bring about...

Big bloc multilateral trade deals are on the wane, yesterdays idea, even Trump knows this.

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

That's right Conrad.
We could stay in the SM and leave the EU, we could adopt a Norway style option and leave the EU. Both would satisfy the referendum mandate which asked if we wanted to stay in or leave the EU.

The EEA is yet another legal construct with freedom of movement and financial contributions attached, not compatible with 'take back control'.

TrickyTree83

Conrad wrote: »

The EEA is yet another legal construct with freedom of movement and financial contributions attached, not compatible with 'take back control'.

We'd be in control of our own trade arrangements.

We can find a friend in the goal of limiting numbers of EU migrants within the EEA/EFTA in Norway and Switzerland, the Swiss have said as much already.

Conrad

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Has anyone been keeping tabs on polls in France, Germany and Italy?

France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017

Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Italian_general_election

Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election

Looks like anti-EU sentiment is on the rise and in some places - winning. Why is this? Was the UK indeed a bellweather and in fact the EU will have to negotiate not just with the UK but with France (2017) and possibly Italy (2018)?

In Germany the ruling party remains ahead in polls but support is wavering.

And this is why the stories of business fleeing to the EU en-mass is a bit silly - if anything the EU area faces MORE uncertainty than the UK

Conrad

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

We'd be in control of our own trade arrangements.

We can find a friend in the goal of limiting numbers of EU migrants within the EEA/EFTA in Norway and Switzerland, the Swiss have said as much already.

Yes, I've often mentioned whether we might be making behind the scenes plans with Switzerland and possibly Norway.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

It's not so important that it was our money to begin with, it's more that it's invested back into something useful.

Like, I don't complain when the council use some of my council tax to resurface the roads.

Would our government have built the same bridge if we didn't give the EU the money? I'm betting the answer is no, or the EU wouldn't have had to fund it :rotfl:

you make a very good case for getting rid of democracy and handing all power to some sort of 'benevolent ' technocrats.

the only problem will come when you don't like their decisions and have no way of changing them. so they may decide to abolish the UK NHS service as being out of keeping with the EU models or abolishing our high minimum wage as being unEU etc

TrickyTree83

Conrad wrote: »

Yes, I've often mentioned whether we might be making behind the scenes plans with Switzerland and possibly Norway.

Those xenophobic Swiss!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/22/switzerland-votes-for-compromise-to-preserve-relations-with-eu

Be interesting to see if the EU says no to the Swiss on the basis of discrimination. The EU could well be building a coalition of countries against their stubborn dictatorial approach to policy.

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

It's not so important that it was our money to begin with, it's more that it's invested back into something useful.

Like, I don't complain when the council use some of my council tax to resurface the roads.

So you'd welcome your council using halve their money to run your services and then handing the other halve to Albania for example, ok then.....

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

I do wish you lot would make up your minds.

Either the EU can force governments to comply or the EU can not force them to comply - Wallonia indicates the latter is true.

When a giant trade deal can be vetoed by a tiny Belgian province until it gets the changes it wants it makes a mockery of all the anti-EU rhetoric about loss of sovereignty and loss of control.

Yamumuk

The best thing to happen BY FAR would be no Brexit, let's hope this happens. Save the Brexmongers from themselves.

Dom Jolly summed it up.

https://www.facebook.com/officialdomjoly/photos/a.209744872382472.53481.209348075755485/1339397606083854/?type=3&theater

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/10/18/brexit-death-of-british-business/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37725327

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/you-definitely-voted-to-lose-66-billion-a-year-may-tells-britain-20161011115152

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/oh-inflations-the-least-of-your-worries-chuckles-bank-of-england-20161019115593

You bunch of jokers.