If we vote for Brexit what happens

TrickyTree83

Yamumuk wrote: »

It was my understanding that since they saw the start of the decade long mess we are in for that opinion had actually been boistered for staying in the E.U. I think WIki can be edited by any members.

Easy to find contrary

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-latest-news-sweden-support-eu-swedish-membership-surges-a7136426.html

http://qz.com/723813/after-brexit-people-in-europe-are-suddenly-feeling-a-lot-more-european/

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-poll-idUKKCN1002A0

Finland was especially anti Eu prior to Brexit vote.

They're all old articles, and the Wiki pages have links to the polls if you care to look.

For example here's the Ipsos poll in the French election:

http://www.ipsos.fr/decrypter-societe/2016-09-26-enquete-electorale-francaise-vague-6-primaire-droite-l-ecart-se-resserre-entre-alain-juppe-et

Look at page 10.

That's the woman who has promised the French a referendum on EU membership if she's elected.

Yamumuk

Conrad wrote: »

Heyalp, heyalp, we can't cope an independent state, I need my mommy, wah wah

13 refugees :eek:

Herzlos

Yamumuk wrote: »

May is "What are we going to do about the Russians to the E.U. parliament ?" The answer is F.A. basically unless we all want to die.

I had a chuckle at that; we don't want anything to do with the EU, and then at the first sign of trouble we're asking the EU for help.

Yamumuk

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

They're all old articles, and the Wiki pages have links to the polls if you care to look.

For example here's the Ipsos poll in the French election:

http://www.ipsos.fr/decrypter-societe/2016-09-26-enquete-electorale-francaise-vague-6-primaire-droite-l-ecart-se-resserre-entre-alain-juppe-et

Look at page 10.

That's the woman who has promised the French a referendum on EU membership if she's elected.

Opinion will be dynamic, once we are nailed down it will quickly swing back.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

I had a chuckle at that; we don't want anything to do with the EU, and then at the first sign of trouble we're asking the EU for help.

I agree : we should clearly state we have no national interest in whatever Russia does in europe and it is totally up to the nations of the mainland to deal with the situation.

TrickyTree83

Yamumuk wrote: »

Well first it has to do with Brexitmongers being massively blown up about our capabilities in various areas. We don't seem to be able to take 13 refugees now. Hardly a demonstration of power and wealth ! (or moral thought)

We are a little island with a big nose. We sent relatively speaking a canoe and dinghy down to the channel to watch Russian vessels pass through. We are living in dangerous times. May is "What are we going to do about the Russians to the E.U. parliament ?" The answer is F.A. basically unless we all want to die.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/09/russia-can-outgun-british-troops-leaked-report-suggests/

We could be invaded and over run in 7 days or so. So get a perspective including at Brexmonger level. Maybe if Trump gets in and NATO is disbanded we will be in real danger.

It helps Brexmongers gain perspective on what our diminuitive political, military, global influence is IMO.

I am not talking it down, from your blown up delusional perspective I might be, just explaining things as they are.

MY WORD!

You are so woefully ill-informed.

Donald Trump has stated that he wants countries within NATO to pay their way, not an unreasonable thing to say. He's not said he wants to disband NATO.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/whats-trumps-position-on-nato/

It's all related to NATO members not paying their fair share, I see nothing wrong in calling NATO members out on that fact. The US have been asking them to pay the agreed minimum for years.

You're not explaining anything 'as it is'.

You quote old articles in your defence of the anti-EU sentiment.

You claim the Wiki pages can be edited easily without actually checking the sources they quote.

And you post liberal hysteria on this thread constantly.

Who looks stupid? Me, or you?

TrickyTree83

Herzlos wrote: »

I had a chuckle at that; we don't want anything to do with the EU, and then at the first sign of trouble we're asking the EU for help.

It would be stupid to stop co-operation.

Where has all the rational thought gone. So we don't want to be in political union? Doesn't mean we cannot work together on policiing, anti-terrorism, mutual defence, etc...

Yamumuk

Just for the record..... Brexmongers - you do realize that one day quite soon you are going to have to say "We are sorry we were wrong, Brexit has in fact destroyed the last bit of value the U.K. provided to its inhabitants and to the world."

It's coming, day by day, don't live in denial any longer just be honest to yourselves. Brexit was wishful thinking and in fact a hopeless, misguided decion based on manipulation, hatred, fear and being the least sharp tools in the box.

You are just making me laugh and pity you now. Gain back a bit of credibility and unite the country again, get on .gov and start a Brexmongers against Brexit petition.

Do the right thing and you can stop wallowing in your self made stew of trashing the U.K.

Yamumuk

CLAPTON wrote: »

I agree : we should clearly state we have no national interest in whatever Russia does in europe and it is totally up to the nations of the mainland to deal with the situation.

And become the No. 1 walkover target.

TrickyTree83

Yamumuk wrote: »

Opinion will be dynamic, once we are nailed down it will quickly swing back.

Ah right, lets pivot and say opinion is dynamic.

Did you check the trend?

Did you look at the other polls in France?

Did you look at M5S in Italy, or AfD in Germany?