If we vote for Brexit what happens

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Whenever the EU considers UK citizens living there 'negotiation cards', I'm sure there will be somewhere for you to write to.

Well, they obviously do, otherwise they would already have declared them free to stay and work in the EU.

Strangely, that doesn't appear as important to you.

Rinoa

wotsthat wrote: »

No idea.

It would help your argument if this was a standard feature of free trade deals. But if you can't point to one example of where else this occurs, I think we can safely say it's not a very good idea.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

As their status hasn't been guaranteed they implied that means they'll be expelled from France?

They sound like right nervous nellies.

it would be simple and decent for the French/EU simply to say they can stay; unless of course they are intending to either expel them or hold them as negotiating cards

Yamumuk

There are a lot of nervous nellies about, all remainers and a big chunk of Brexmongers.

Probably because the EU owes us nothing now, will make clear example of us and are of much greater
importance to us than we are to them.

You can bung up a 1,000 charts but what is going to happen is so dire and as has been the case the last 3 months it's head in the sand, we are incapable of making a massive mistake attitude all round.

It beggars belief that such a hostile vote/act should beckon surprise that we are not going to be treated with the
high disregard from the remaining member states that we deserve. (Brexmongers that is)

Fingers crossed that total chaos does not ensue. I still feel the best plan is no Brexit at all.

A "Hands up, we were wrong" would not go amiss right now. Muster up the courage to admit you got it wrong and
get a petition on the .gov website saying you got it wrong. Someone have the balls to get that going instead of denial and optimism that all is going to to be ok when it is positively slamming into your face like a 50KG door that it is not going to be ok at all,

Every time I watch the news the fear and dismay in the presenters is very striking. It is like watching someone pull the toilet chain watching the news right now.

Thrugelmir

Yamumuk wrote: »

It beggars belief that such a hostile vote/act should beckon surprise that we are not going to be treated with the
high disregard from the remaining member states that we deserve. (Brexmongers that is)

If that's the attitude. Why would one want to be a member of the club? All too happy to receive the benefits of the UK being a member. After all the UK is a net financial contributor and has provided jobs for many.

Yamumuk

Everything I wrote in other posts. I am not sitting here repeating myself over for you. You are the one with the mental blockage that Brexit is ok.

You voted out and it is up to you to understand what you have caused and are responsible for the mass of problems which are almost unfathomable in complexity. Just because they may appear unfathomable right now does not mean we will not be feeling them like a tonnes of bricks in the next few years.

No investment is here, right now, causing problems in the next few months and years, it will go on for years and years. You screwed it.

CLAPTON

Yamumuk wrote: »

Everything I wrote in other posts. I am not sitting here repeating myself over for you. You are the one with the mental blockage that Brexit is ok.

Rational democratic people would recognise that there are two sides of the argument and that both are viable. Both sides should accept the integrity of the other, even whilst disagreeing.

You voted out and it is up to you to understand what you have caused and are responsible for the mass of problems which are almost unfathomable in complexity. Just because they may appear unfathomable right now does not mean we will not be feeling them like a tonnes of bricks in the next few years.

Normal people don't think the problems are 'unfathonable in complexity': they are fundamentally simple and solvable problems and are far less difficult than many other contemporary issues.

No investment is here, right now, causing problems in the next few months and years, it will go on for years and years. You screwed it.

nonsense and offensive

TrickyTree83

Yamumuk wrote: »

There are a lot of nervous nellies about, all remainers and a big chunk of Brexmongers.

Probably because the EU owes us nothing now, will make clear example of us and are of much greater
importance to us than we are to them.

You can bung up a 1,000 charts but what is going to happen is so dire and as has been the case the last 3 months it's head in the sand, we are incapable of making a massive mistake attitude all round.

It beggars belief that such a hostile vote/act should beckon surprise that we are not going to be treated with the
high disregard from the remaining member states that we deserve. (Brexmongers that is)

Fingers crossed that total chaos does not ensue. I still feel the best plan is no Brexit at all.

A "Hands up, we were wrong" would not go amiss right now. Muster up the courage to admit you got it wrong and
get a petition on the .gov website saying you got it wrong. Someone have the balls to get that going instead of denial and optimism that all is going to to be ok when it is positively slamming into your face like a 50KG door that it is not going to be ok at all,

Every time I watch the news the fear and dismay in the presenters is very striking. It is like watching someone pull the toilet chain watching the news right now.

Can you private message me what next weeks Euromillions numbers will be?

Thanks in advance.

Oh and...

mrginge

Moto2 wrote: »

So I take it you're in favour of the UK parliament having the authority and full power to debate and vote on all aspects of the Brexit negotiations rather than just rubber stamp them?

Debating and scrutinising is part and parcel of the parliamentary process for just about everything and brexit will be no different.
Voting is slightly different. If parliament requires a vote though then they should have one.

They should also consider three things though.
1. Does introducing another vote (of any kind) weaken our ability to negotiate with any authority and does it therefore restrict our ability to get the best deal for the country?
2. What is the consequence of any rejection?
3. What is the potential impact on parties and individual MPs future prospects if they fail to deliver what the electorate has voted for and which they have already all agreed to deliver?

One suspects that the desire for a vote is at least in part down to the size of the governments majority and desperate opportunism by remain hangers-on.

prosaver

Yamumuk wrote: »

Everything I wrote in other posts. I am not sitting here repeating myself over for you. You are the one with the mental blockage that Brexit is ok.

You voted out and it is up to you to understand what you have caused and are responsible for the mass of problems which are almost unfathomable in complexity. Just because they may appear unfathomable right now does not mean we will not be feeling them like a tonnes of bricks in the next few years.

No investment is here, right now, causing problems in the next few months and years, it will go on for years and years. You screwed it.

Investment is booming since brexit ...google it ...