If we vote for Brexit what happens

setmefree2

High street sales hold steady after Brexit vote

UK shoppers encouraged by low inflation and income growth

High street sales were flat in September, but the recent strength of the retail sector will ensure it makes a positive contribution to UK growth in the third quarter.

Seasonally adjusted volumes of sales were unchanged from August and July, the Office for National Statistics said on Thursday. The sector grew 1.8 per cent over the three months to the end of September.

This will contribute just over 0.1 percentage points to the overall growth rate in the third quarter and will more than offset a drag from weak construction output on the GDP figures to be published on October 27.

The strength of other parts of the dominant service sector is also likely to help economic growth hit 0.5 per cent, significantly higher than the Bank of England’s forecast of 0.1 per cent made in August.

Retail volumes were 4.1 per cent higher in September than a year earlier, indicating shoppers have not been discouraged by the Brexit vote and have taken the opportunity of low inflation and income growth to increase spending.
The ONS said “the underlying trend [in retail] is one of strength, suggesting consumer confidence has remained steady since June’s referendum”.

Economists worry that as falls in shop prices come to an end, the retail sector will cool. But in the short term, this summer’s strength will ensure growth figures are significantly stronger than those predicted by the BoE.
Samuel Tombs of Pantheon Macroeconomics said this would “probably persuade the MPC to refrain from cutting interest rates in November”.

https://www.ft.com/content/6c859b8c-96a3-11e6-a1dc-bdf38d484582

Moto2

Conrad wrote: »

When a UK politician passes the buck for mass immigration etc to Brussels, how the heck would I know who to blame and how to get them out? An impossible adventure. That's why we don't want it.


If Mrs May now fails to get on top of immigration, once we've left the EU I know precisely who's to blame.

Conrad wrote: »

Since when, I recall 13 yrs of Labour, and more recently a coalition.


Why do you like sub-contracting out decisions to a far away Brussels elite? Do you lack confidence in our own decision making abilities?

Conrad wrote: »

I want a single Parliament where I can lay blame, I don't want a second layer in Brussels.

So I take it you're in favour of the UK parliament having the authority and full power to debate and vote on all aspects of the Brexit negotiations rather than just rubber stamp them?

Conrad

Moto2 wrote: »

So I take it you're in favour of the UK parliament having the authority and full power to debate and vote on all aspects of the Brexit negotiations rather than just rubber stamp them?

Many remainers start out with the assumption we are a weak petitioner and cannot understand the huge opportunities of brexit, as such they have nothing to contribute.


I wont mind if Mrs May goes through the motions of letting them have a say though..., after all Hilary Bens appointment as Brexit Committee Chair gives the remoaners a toss of red meat

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Since when, I recall 13 yrs of Labour, and more recently a coalition.

And where is Labour now?

Why do you like sub-contracting out decisions to a far away Brussels elite? Do you lack confidence in our own decision making abilities?

Exactly. Our current-and-forseeable-future overlords are only interested in themselves. The larger Brussels based coalition at least introduced lots of measures that were to the benefit of the majority. They make better decisions than we do. They are actually representative.

Conrad wrote: »

I want a single Parliament where I can lay blame, I don't want a second layer in Brussels.

And you've got a single Parliament that is blameless and untouchable. Well done :j

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

And where is Labour now?




Exactly. Our current-and-forseeable-future overlords are only interested in themselves. The larger Brussels based coalition at least introduced lots of measures that were to the benefit of the majority. They make better decisions than we do. They are actually representative.

some examples being
-the way Greece is being treated
-the racist discrimination against black africa
-the obvious collusion with car manufacturers with diesel emissions and mileage figures
-the toleration of Calais jungle on sovereign French territory (no use of human rights legislation there).
-the totally corrupt EU agricultural policy

TrickyTree83

CLAPTON wrote: »

some examples being
-the way Greece is being treated
-the racist discrimination against black africa
-the obvious collusion with car manufacturers with diesel emissions and mileage figures
-the toleration of Calais jungle on sovereign French territory (no use of human rights legislation there).
-the totally corrupt EU agricultural policy

Don't forget the non-mandatory lobbyist transparency.

Which global corporation wouldn't want to pay cash to one organisation to shape policy in 28 nation states instead of paying each of the 28 individually.

As it's not mandatory to disclose, do what you want, we'll let the idiots/sister groups sign the transparency register to make it look like we're tackling it.

mayonnaise

David Davis agrees that businesses face 'cliff edge' threat if no EU trade deal is struck by 2019

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-david-davis-agrees-that-businesses-face-cliff-edge-threat-if-no-eu-trade-deal-is-struck-by-a7371376.html

Brexit Secretary David Davis has admitted businesses face a damaging “cliff edge” if the Government misses its two-year deadline for striking a fresh EU trade deal.

Quizzed in the Commons, Mr Davis agreed with a Labour MP who outlined the dangers if companies are forced to “fall back on WTO rules”, in 2019.

Reality settling in?

Conrad

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b080cn8z/daily-politics-20102016


12 minutes in >> Daily Politics runs footage from the campaign of various Remain and Leave campaigners CONFIRMING we would be leaving the single market.


People knew what they were voting - to take back control, period

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

David Davis agrees that businesses face 'cliff edge' threat if no EU trade deal is struck by 2019

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-david-davis-agrees-that-businesses-face-cliff-edge-threat-if-no-eu-trade-deal-is-struck-by-a7371376.html


Reality settling in?

Which other independent nations face this cliff edge over their EU trade?


How is it my home is full of non EU products from nations with no trade deal?


What cliff edge will EU producers face wanting access to our rich markets and fishing waters?


What barriers are their to services - Singapore and others are to export services under Mifid 2 rules.

StevieJ

'Imagine you are in a very cold winter and you are freezing, at some point your house catches fire and you are happy because of the rise in temperature

' A good analogy for post brexit Britain and the collapse of Sterling.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/video/realizing-costs-hard-brexit-085301843.html