If we vote for Brexit what happens

gfplux

cogito wrote: »

You might want to read this article which explains how the CAP has almost destroyed our sugar industry.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9904266/The-EUs-sugar-ruling-thats-left-a-bitter-taste-at-Tate-and-Lyle.html

Do you know what has happened in the 42 months since that article appeared?
It would be very interesting.

Yamumuk

Conrad wrote: »

When a UK politician passes the buck for mass immigration etc to Brussels, how the heck would I know who to blame and how to get them out? An impossible adventure. That's why we don't want it.


If Mrs May now fails to get on top of immigration, once we've left the EU I know precisely who's to blame.

At least you are honest you don't like immigrants. It's what we all thought as remainers but we had to hold tongue that you want to someone to punish. History is about to repeat.

Good to hear it from the horses mouth.

After all the analysis and sophisticated thought pondering the reasons we come back to the facts it was the old and dim who voted Brexit. So dim in fact they cannot even see the damage when it is staring them in the face.

If May has an ounce of sense she will ensure Brexit does not proceed, at any cost.

And as far as a lurch to the right, it's happened, it is crystal clear.

We live in a very dangerous time.

gfplux

setmefree2 wrote: »

Tariffs can still be tailored to our own producers. This is a link to the EU tariffs.

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20161019&Area=US&Taric=2103&LangDescr=en

Imagine you are USA, imagine you want to import sauce (code 2103) tomato sauce in particular - tariff = 10.2%.

We could have high tariffs for our own producers products say tomatos but low for things we import like sweetcorn =0%. Coconut = 0%

That presupposes that the British Government actually do it in the general interest and not be persuaded to help out their "friends"
All changes like this are a golden opportunity to reward friends of the party.

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

That presupposes that the British Government actually do it in the general interest and not be persuaded to help out their "friends"
All changed like this are a golden opportunity to reward friends of the party.

once free we can change the government and the tax regime by voting for the right party

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

When a UK politician passes the buck for mass immigration etc to Brussels, how the heck would I know who to blame and how to get them out? An impossible adventure. That's why we don't want it.

You blame the responsible party - the UK politician passing the buck. That doesn't mean Westminster is more accountable than the EU.

If Mrs May now fails to get on top of immigration, once we've left the EU I know precisely who's to blame.

And then what will happen, when you blame the right person?

F-all, because Westminster is accountable only to whoever holds the photos of said politician with their genitals inside a pig carcass.

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

once free we can change the government and the tax regime by voting for the right party

How will we do that since we're essentially a single party state?

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

You blame the responsible party - the UK politician passing the buck. That doesn't mean Westminster is more accountable than the EU.



And then what will happen, when you blame the right person?

F-all, because Westminster is accountable only to whoever holds the photos of said politician with their genitals inside a pig carcass.

which form of dictatorship do you favour ?

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

How will we do that since we're essentially a single party state?

Since when, I recall 13 yrs of Labour, and more recently a coalition.


Why do you like sub-contracting out decisions to a far away Brussels elite? Do you lack confidence in our own decision making abilities?

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

You blame the responsible party - the UK politician passing the buck. That doesn't mean Westminster is more accountable than the EU.



And then what will happen, when you blame the right person?

F-all, because Westminster is accountable only to whoever holds the photos of said politician with their genitals inside a pig carcass.

I want a single Parliament where I can lay blame, I don't want a second layer in Brussels.

Conrad

BobQ wrote: »

The EU, whatever its faults, has been successfully sold to Joe Public as a symbol of whatever they thought was wrong with the world or their life. I suspect that many of them will eventually realise that leaving the EU was not the solution to their particular problem.

^^ I give you exhibit 3 in the panoply of patronising Bremainer myths.


No one thinks the EU is to blame for all of their issues.