If we vote for Brexit what happens

gfplux

An educational piece for all of us.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/16/brexit-vote-brings-uncertainty-for-fruit-pickers-and-farmers

It talks about the issues of seasonal workers in the UK.

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

An educational piece for all of us.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/16/brexit-vote-brings-uncertainty-for-fruit-pickers-and-farmers

It talks about the issues of seasonal workers in the UK.

I think it would be quite educational to know what records Luxembourg keeps on the people living there and whether they inflame xenophobia.

gfplux

This is probably not true. Just propaganda.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/16/could-brexit-prove-terminal-for-the-nhs

"The BMA – which represents 170,000 doctors – knew nothing of the proposals before Hunt’s party conference speech was made. They were not consulted. The head of the Royal College of Physicians, Jane Dacre, points out to me that 40% of new consultant posts are already not being filled. At UCL, Deborah Gill says that while they welcome lifting the cap on the number of medical students they’re allowed to admit, they’ve no idea how it will be funded, if there will be enough foundation placements, or why it has anything to do with foreign doctors “coming over here, as they do, curing our patients and paying their taxes”."

The_Last_Username

gfplux wrote: »

This is probably not true. Just propaganda.

Or how about the opinion of a journalist?
One widely recognised to be a "lefty" and a hypocrite?
Righty-ho.
As I suspected, more rubbish then.

http://www.tomwinnifrith.com/articles/8887/guardian-observer-hypocrite-carole-cadwalladr-the-myth-of-working-class-comprehensives

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

This is probably not true. Just propaganda.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/16/could-brexit-prove-terminal-for-the-nhs

"The BMA – which represents 170,000 doctors – knew nothing of the proposals before Hunt’s party conference speech was made. They were not consulted. The head of the Royal College of Physicians, Jane Dacre, points out to me that 40% of new consultant posts are already not being filled. At UCL, Deborah Gill says that while they welcome lifting the cap on the number of medical students they’re allowed to admit, they’ve no idea how it will be funded, if there will be enough foundation placements, or why it has anything to do with foreign doctors “coming over here, as they do, curing our patients and paying their taxes”."

interesting the article was about Homerton Hospital
that was the hospital that racist Diane Abbot specifical singled out and said that Finnish nurses should NOT be allowed to work there because they were Finnish and white.

I guess the left wing guardian bigot didn't mention that.

gfplux

This is a very interesting analysis of the legal challenge to A50.
https://waitingfortax.com/2016/10/16/brexit-the-important-role-of-the-court-of-justice/
It would be very interesting if it all ended up at the European court in Luxembourg!!!!

A small quote
"What makes this question especially topical is that the same legal question as is embedded in Tusk’s political offer also lurks just below the surface of the Article 50 litigation that is presently taking place in the High Court.

The Claimants’ case – that triggering Article 50 can only be done by Act of Parliament – rests upon a contention that removing rights from individuals cannot be done by the Executive. It is something only Parliament can do. But if Article 50 is reversible, the central assertion in the Claimants’ case may not arise. If Article 50 is reversible we can’t know that the consequence of Theresa May triggering Article 50 will be to remove those rights."

We live in interesting times, don't we.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

"The BMA – which represents 170,000 doctors – knew nothing of the proposals before Hunt’s party conference speech was made. They were not consulted.

It was a conference speech to Tory party members. That's all.

Don't recall Juncker or Tusk or Merkel or Hollande consulting with the UK electorate on any topic. Yet they define policy within the EU. Weren't interested in discussing anything with Cameron. As thought the UK would vote to remain. The fact was they were wrong. Also appear to have misread the feelings of a sizable number of people within other EU states as well. Hardly democracy in action.

Shakethedisease

Posted this in DT. Thought it might be relevant here re the City. Brexit exemptions.. what's that all about then ?

wotsthat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Posted this in DT. Thought it might be relevant here re the City. Brexit exemptions.. what's that all about then?

It's called running an idea up the flagpole to see who salutes.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

(Disclaimer: This is not meant to be a generalisation on my part; more a continuation of media interpreting data.)

Strange, isn't it?
How those in London are the most pro-EU in England.

Where consumer confidence is lower than the rest of Britain according to a survey by Deloitte; consumer confidence falling by three points in London in the last quarter yet increasing by three points elsewhere.
This at a time when house prices in London fell whilst the country as a whole rose.

So houses are getting cheaper in London and still Londoners aren't happy; they're not happy when prices rise either.
What then would make Londoners happy, I wonder?

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-economy-idUKKBN12G0ZV

Jobs?
Well, it seems that all the "hoo-hah" over passporting has been exaggerated too (surprise surprise).

only 7 percent of assets in funds managed in Britain would be under direct threat from the loss of passporting

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-banks-idUKKBN12G101
Plus thousands of jobs created with the opening of a 24/7 tube service; 1500 more (plus initial building jobs) at the planned expansion of City Airport; ........................ there are lots more.

So, why aren't Londoners more optimistic?
Because it really does strike me that - in many ways - they have more to be optimistic about than much of England.
Or is it just more self-fulfilling spin?