P45 need to hide salary to date

Wayne_O_Mac

Polarbeary wrote: »

Really? Vindictive and nasty about somebody on a forum you do not even know? Wow. Just wow.

How exactly would you propose to tell their employer?

I'm sorry, I can't answer this. I'm too busy crying tears of shame for wanting a liar to get their comeuppance.

ratechaser

In my industry, there are pretty wide pay bands (and I use that term loosely) for people doing effectively the same job. That's because people tend to get job offers based on what they were paid in their last job. Consequently there is a lot of scrutiny when someone says 'I currently earn 100k and am looking for 120k to work for you', with the onus very much on the individual to substantiate their claims. I've seen people fired for inflating numbers that they later couldn't back up.

I don't know if that's the case for the OP but it certainly sounds as though his new salary was influenced by what he said, and I'd have little sympathy if he lost his job as a result of getting caught out.

prowla

JReacher1 wrote: »

I agree with you if we are in an idealistic world. However job interviews are very competitive and if you end up in the final few the chances are the interviewer will choose the person who answered all their questions.

I don't personally see why it matters whether the person interviewing you for a position knows what your previous salary was. Not providing this information does make you appear a bit difficult.

Well, there is also the matter of whether it is legal for a company to hold the information about previous salary.

https://www.gov.uk/personal-data-my-employer-can-keep-about-me

However, diametrically opposed to this, ACAS give an example of an application form which includes an item stating current rate of pay (p.24), and includes the statement "I accept that providing deliberately false information could result in my dismissal.".

http://www.acas.org.uk/media/pdf/c/a/Acas_Personnel_data_record_keeping-accessible-version-July-2011.pdf

Polarbeary

Wayne_O_Mac wrote: »

I'm sorry, I can't answer this. I'm too busy crying tears of shame for wanting a liar to get their comeuppance.

Sad how you care so much about a random posting on the Internet. There are far worse things going on in the world. If my employees were so nasty and bitter I would want to know...have you left any identifying details?

makeyourdaddyproud

Undervalued wrote: »

Or in other words you committed fraud! So you are now looking for information as to how to duck and dive in order to cover it up? Not a good start to a trusting contractual relationship really!

I'm sure lot of people do it, many will get away with it and no doubt some employers will not be bothered and see it as "all part of the game".

However, other employers will take a very dim view indeed and if yours in one of them you may well find yourself dismissed before you even start.

One of life's little lessons.

Wayne O hit the nail on the head.

Who cares about what the employer thinks/wants, I certainly don't.

Employers are much prepared to dump you at a moments notice, and without reason and seek to pay the least amount, irrespective of the skills on offer. Employers also lie for a variety of reasons during trading and bargaining, all the time.

And the interviewee is not allowed to the same?

It only a life's lesson to show how you can remain gainfully employed.

And even if he's found out, he can just move on to the next employer.

The "trusting contractual relationship" you alluded to counts for nothing if you become surplus to requirements, need to go sick or generally require anything that the greedy employer deems as a cost to their enterprise.

[Deleted User]

Polarbeary wrote: »

Sad how you care so much about a random posting on the Internet. There are far worse things going on in the world. If my employees were so nasty and bitter I would want to know...have you left any identifying details?

And a thread didn't need to be made bragging really. Did it.

I know a boss into karma and all that. What goes around comes around they make sure of it and then everyone suffers.. even the innocent

A newly bankrupt person would not get away with missing of the truth in a job that commanded it, why should this individual and then not be picked up on for showing little respect to others, when the biggest laugh was they put it in the public domain! enough said though I'm sure the OP will get away with it realistically until the business is perhaps sold under their feet as nobody can really tell their boss what to do.

Polarbeary

Deleted%20User wrote: »

And a thread didn't need to be made bragging really. Did it.

I know a boss into karma and all that. What goes around comes around they make sure of it and then everyone suffers.. even the innocent

A newly bankrupt person would not get away with missing of the truth in a job that commanded it, why should this individual and then not be picked up on for showing little respect to others, when the biggest laugh was they put it in the public domain! enough said though I'm sure the OP will get away with it realistically until the business is perhaps sold under their feet as nobody can really tell their boss what to do.

Sorry but I'm a little confused as to the meaning of your post...

pioneer22

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

Wayne O hit the nail on the head.

Who cares about what the employer thinks/wants, I certainly don't.

Employers are much prepared to dump you at a moments notice, and without reason and seek to pay the least amount, irrespective of the skills on offer. Employers also lie for a variety of reasons during trading and bargaining, all the time.

And the interviewee is not allowed to the same?

It only a life's lesson to show how you can remain gainfully employed.

And even if he's found out, he can just move on to the next employer.

The "trusting contractual relationship" you alluded to counts for nothing if you become surplus to requirements, need to go sick or generally require anything that the greedy employer deems as a cost to their enterprise.

I agree, they won't care if they need to get rid a little while down the line.

Preedyboi

Nasty_spiteful_loner_Wayne_O_Mac wrote: »

I'm sorry, I can't answer this. I'm too busy crying tears of shame for wanting a liar to get their comeuppance.

. You really do need to get out more methinks.
:beer:

Wayne_O_Mac

Preedyboi wrote: »

. You really do need to get out more methinks.
:beer:

Bit rich coming from the person who dug up a two week old thread to try and make a parting shot.