P45 need to hide salary to date

devilivus

Wayne_O_Mac wrote: »

If only you'd taken that approach in the interview.

Then he'd have been considered a potentially 'awkward' of 'difficult' candidate and blown his chances of getting the job.

Interviews and the recruitment process are all about lots of white lies, but it's important use lies that are very difficult to prove.
For example, people often flat-out lie about small elements and fictional events that they use to answer competency based questions.
It's not as if the employers check that every little story or acchievment you claim is true!

(''Hi. I recently interviewed James who has worked with you for 15 years. When I asked him to give me an example of an occasion where he had a disagreement with a work colleague which he later resolved, he told me that he had a disagreement with Kelly in the accounts department, but they were able to resolve the issue by adapting the order in which they went about their daily tasks. Can you confirm this? I also have another 50 or so similr questions I'd like to ask.....'')

LannieDuck

I've never lied at interview. Two reasons: i) I've never needed to (I've been successful in 3 of the 5 job interviews I've had), ii) I work in a specialised field and word would get around if I started exaggerating my CV.

I've also been on the other side of the interview, and I would be very concerned if something the interviewee said contradicted their CV/job application, or if a referee contradicted something that the interviewee had claimed. If they lied about one thing, what other lies did they tell?

Semple

You'd be a fool not to negotiate your salary during the interview stage, at the end of the day your employer will have a boundary of pay that he can offer, obviously if he goes well over then they will know you're lying.

Negotiating for a few extra Grand is part of the game.

If they don't feel that your performance is worth the salary you negotiated, they'll just get rid of you anyway.

pioneer22

Everyone gives themselves a pay bump at interview its very common if the question is asked.

I wouldn't worry there are plenty of things you can say just say you haven't got a p45 or hand it to payroll they really won't care.

The issue is with the company and "equal" pay the salary should be the salary for the role.

Man's previous job salary 40k offer 40k to match
Woman's previous job salary 30k offer 30k to match

Not exactly fair if they are doing the same job.

slink85

Majestic12 wrote: »

You do know even CEOs of large corporates have been fired for lying about previous salaries, fake degrees, fake achievements on their CV's etc..

please provide links to 5 CEOs in say a traded company that have been sacked due to lying abut their previous income please

pioneer22

Also to further add to this discussion, are you telling me recruitment agencys haven't ever bumped up a candidates salary to enhance their commission?

pioneer22

JReacher1 wrote: »

From total jobs



Unless you’re discussing your first full-time job, it’s highly unlikely that your prospective employer won't ask you about your current salary. We know it’s very tempting to bump up your current wage to boost your chances of getting more money... Stop! 99% of employers will check your salary claims when they take up your references, so if you’ve lied you can expect all sorts of trouble. Unless you want to risk being sacked days into a new job - never a good look - stick to the truth.

http://www.totaljobs.com/careers-advice/interviews/how-to-negotiate-your-salary

What a load of !!!!!!!!, I have friends in HR who have never and wouldn't ever give out that information. No employer ever EVER gives out previous salary information.

pippy1971

pioneer22 wrote: »

What a load of !!!!!!!!, I have friends in HR who have never and wouldn't ever give out that information. No employer ever EVER gives out previous salary information.

Actually, the CIPD website discusses references and states "a reference may include job title, salary and sickness absence".

The CIPD is the professional body for HR and People Development.

Here is the link:http://www.cipd.co.uk/binaries/pre-employment-checks_2013.pdf

The section I'm referring to is on page 11 under 'Case Law'. My understanding is not that the OP is concerned with the morality or incidence of how many other people would / have done the same in his circumstances, but whether or not he can be found out. Simply, in answer to this, yes he can be found out, P45 or no P45.

There are also a number of agencies such as Experian that offer a 'candidate verifier' service, which will check what you state on your application form or CV:
http://www.experian.co.uk/background-checking/reference-checks.html
We don't use them at my current employer, but my previous employer, which was a FTSE100 Financial Services company with around 5,000 employees did.

pioneer22

pippy1971 wrote: »

Actually, the CIPD website discusses references and states "a reference may include job title, salary and sickness absence".

The CIPD is the professional body for HR and People Development.

Here is the link:http://www.cipd.co.uk/binaries/pre-employment-checks_2013.pdf

The section I'm referring to is on page 11 under 'Case Law'. My understanding is not that the OP is concerned with the morality or incidence of how many other people would / have done the same in his circumstances, but whether or not he can be found out. Simply, in answer to this, yes he can be found out, P45 or no P45.

I know who the CIPD are, as someone who has written a lot of references for junior staff I can confirm in Private healthcare and NHS salary information isn't given out.

I've asked for the references for my junior staff and references aren't on them.

Pippy it would be interesting to know if you re in recruitment or HR?

OP - I really wouldn't worry they have taken the time and headache to interview offer onboard you I doubt very much this will come back up to bite you.

pioneer22

OP - what sector is your job in? What industry? Even the most stringent checks BPSS - SC - DV it won't come out what peoples previous salaries were.