similar background = better compatability?

torbrex

fierystormcloud wrote: »

How incredibly rude.

Did I hit a raw nerve Torbrex?

So you think it's perfectly OK for people to make nasty and snide remarks about people's university degrees then?

This reaction to my post speaks volumes about you.

Only in the same way that your post has a go at people that do not have a degree.

LilElvis

Person_one wrote: »

Snobbery about what you may consider 'Mickey Mouse' degrees isn't really any better than snobbery about no degree.

There has always been snobbery regarding subjects studied and where you gained your degree, hence the vast amount of additional coaching and assistance given to gain entrance into particular educational establishments.

As for the term "Mickey Mouse" - have you actually seen some of the courses offered these days? Comedy writing, golf course management - have a quick Google and you will find lots more.

Would you be happy for a child of yours to mire themselves in tens of thousands of debt to study for one of these courses? Or would you be a "snob" and encourage them to take a more mainstream course?

balletshoes

LilElvis wrote: »

There has always been snobbery regarding subjects studied and where you gained your degree, hence the vast amount of additional coaching and assistance given to gain entrance into particular educational establishments.

As for the term "Mickey Mouse" - have you actually seen some of the courses offered these days? Comedy writing, golf course management - have a quick Google and you will find lots more.

Would you be happy for a child of yours to mire themselves in tens of thousands of debt to study for one of these courses?

Or would you be a "snob" and encourage them to take a more mainstream course?

or not go at all, and go into the world of work.

fierystormcloud

torbrex wrote: »

Only in the same way that your post has a go at people that do not have a degree.

I never had a go at ANYONE who does not have a degree!

I just said that people who are nasty about people who have what THEY deem at a mickey mouse degree, USUALLY do not have a degree.

Stop making stuff up to suit your agenda.

And stop being so flamin' RUDE!

torbrex

fierystormcloud wrote: »

I never had a go at ANYONE who does not have a degree!

I just said that people who are nasty about people who have what THEY deem at a mickey mouse degree, USUALLY do not have a degree.

Stop making stuff up to suit your agenda.

And stop being so flamin' RUDE!

Any degree is better than not having a degree. It shows that you value education, and you were willing to further your life/ career/ opportunities, and that you can apply yourself to higher education, and stick to timescales, and that you were happy and willing to throw yourself into university life; showing your willingness to try something new and be independent.

What you basically said there is that anyone who does not have a degree does not apply themselves or show willing to try something new.

I would call that having a go at people that do not have a degree.

I don't need to make anything up, all I need to do is quote you.

SandC

More about shared values than education. You know, I did my secondary education in the eighties. A lot of us from our nondescript comprehensive school are in touch after having a 25 year reunion a couple of years ago.

It's been so interesting to me that whoever we were then.... a big mix of those who didn't study at all, were disruptive, even got expelled.... those of us middle of the road leaving with a couple of GCEs going on to a yts or tertiary college..... those who went to do A levels and then uni....

Turns out we are all pretty similar really. Strikingly all having very strong work ethics and all of us being very literate, regardless of exam passes. The early years of education back then must have taught all of us the basics which we never lost.

I guess we all have checklists in some form or other when it comes to relationships and internet dating probably highlights it, you don't have to go on a date to find out things that might put you off, essentially you can often miss a stage in the 'process'.

Person_one

AubreyMac wrote: »

Just because someone has black/coloured friends doesn't mean they are not racist

Especially if they refer to them as their 'coloured' friends. :eek:

Person_one

fierystormcloud wrote: »

^^^ THIS 100,000,000 x

Any degree is better than not having a degree.

Well, I definitely don't agree with that. A degree that the person who studied it found enjoyable, useful, meaningful or all three has as much value as any other degree, whether that's PPE from Oxford that got you into parliament or Drama at an ex-poly that you loved and that boosted your confidence and gave you lifelong friendships even though you now have an unrelated day job. If a person has no desire to study for a degree then that's not 'worse' than if they do.

People make all sorts of different choices about their education/training/job, for all sorts of different reasons. As long as those choices are made freely and are right for that person at that time, none is inherently 'better'.

Torry_Quine

VfM4meplse wrote: »

its not, far from it! I'm a person of faith myself and know I wouldn't get on with an active naysayer; it's just don't think that any one faith can claim superiority, that's all. Didn't Jesus encourage Jews to mix with the Gentiles after all?

Heading off to Evensong now, laters

'We are to be in the world but not of it' As I would like to be with my spouse for eternity then it woul make no sense to marrry a non-Christian.

fierystormcloud wrote: »

I have to say I know a number of people (about 10-12 actually,) who are Christians and regular Churchgoers, and they have atheist spouses. (Or a spouse who is not atheist but isn't too bothered about going to Church.)

I know very few couples who are both strong and passionate believers.

Couples who both believe and both attend Church regularly are the exception, rather than the rule. My neighbour (55) goes to Church 2-3 times a month, and gets quite involved in Church activities, but her husband is 100% atheist. They have been married 33 years. He respects her views and she respects his.

I think being brought up to only marry someone else in the faith would be more likely to happen in a very very strict religious family and background, or a faith that is borderline cult. I have a number of Christian friends who go to Church regularly, and they most certainly were not told they must marry someone in that faith. As long as your partner respects your faith and does not mock and berate you and your faith, then there is no solid reason for them to be an avid Churchgoer too - or even to believe.

Seems strange to me that you could share your life but have diametrically opposed views on something so foundational as to whether or not Christ is the thing that underpins all you do. For instance whether Jesus was just a good man or was indeed the Son of God.

I could only have married an atheist if my faith meant nothing to me

onlyroz

I do think it's better to have a similar intellect, but to me drive and ambition are more important than actual educational attainment.