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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    see post #4 here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5244876 about the guidelines from Jeremy Hunt a year ago, see if you can complain using them and also how they are implementing them to avoid problems like these

    and see if you can get your union on board too

    there are many trusts signed up to the BPA and in their AOS so it seems some trusts do use AOS status to get VRN numbers

    its a shame its not made mandatory and hopefully will be with one body once the Communities Department sort this mess out after their may 2015 review
  • nigelbb
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    Redx wrote: »
    see post #4 here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5244876 about the guidelines from Jeremy Hunt a year ago, see if you can complain using them and also how they are implementing them to avoid problems like these

    and see if you can get your union on board too

    there are many trusts signed up to the BPA and in their AOS so it seems some trusts do use AOS status to get VRN numbers
    It's not many (just 4 I think) but there are indeed some Trusts who are members of the BPA Ltd AOS e.g. East Kent Hospitals University NHS Foundation Trust. This means not only can they purchase keeper details from the DVLA but they must also offer POPLA as a 3rd party appeal. Unfortunately Trusts like the OP's that operate on their own have been known to take their own employees to court. As I have been stating in previous posts when arguing the toss on parking with an employer who is acting as Judge, Jury & Executioner things get messy.
  • Elle-See
    Elle-See Posts: 30 Forumite
    edited 14 September 2015 at 5:13PM
    Received the information requested from the DVLC

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=mrbixj&s=8#.VfbwKbTlf8s

    I have no idea if I've done that right so please let me know
  • whats the parking act 1989?
  • Elle-See
    Elle-See Posts: 30 Forumite
    edited 14 September 2015 at 5:29PM
    This is a photo of the sign which is up on the barrier before you get into the car park. The hospital used Parkforce previously but that sign is the only one up presently mentioning anything 'contractual'

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=b9exhu&s=8#.Vfby8bTlf8s

    This is also up but apart from that there's nothing else as you enter the car park

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=104m0ja&s=8#.Vfb1sLTlf8s
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    whats the parking act 1989?

    seems to be more to do with local authorities and road traffic and not private roads when doing a google search

    the picture shows YELLOW LINES WITH BLIP LINES or something similar

    then it says

    CONTACT OWNER REGARDING A PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE ISSUED ON HOSPITAL GROUNDS

    so a penalty, as if its a council or local authority pcn

    seems wrong to me , seeing as its a private car park on health trust grounds

    doesnt say TRESPASS either
  • bazster
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    whats the parking act 1989?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=parking+act+1989
    Je suis Charlie.
  • Redx wrote: »
    seems to be more to do with local authorities and road traffic and not private roads when doing a google search

    the picture shows YELLOW LINES WITH BLIP LINES or something similar

    then it says

    CONTACT OWNER REGARDING A PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE ISSUED ON HOSPITAL GROUNDS

    so a penalty, as if its a council or local authority pcn

    seems wrong to me , seeing as its a private car park on health trust grounds

    doesnt say TRESPASS either

    It says YELLOW LINES WITH DROP LINES however, I have no idea what drop lines are! I asked to view the photos that were taken by the guy who gave me the notice (whilst I was sat in my car) and was told I couldn't see them unless I requested them via data protection but wouldn't be able to do that until after so many days of which he didn't seem to know how many. I asked if I could be seen in the car and the response was, it's unclear because of the lighting.
  • bazster
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    This requires a formal complaint to DVLA.

    Question 2: Why do you want the information?

    "Yellow lines with drop lines"

    What the hell is that supposed to mean? And anyway yellow lines are meaningless on private property unless supplemented by prominent signage explaining their meaning, of which there is none.

    Question 3: How are you going to use the information?

    "Contact owner regarding a penalty charge notice..."

    A hospital has no power to issue penalty charge notices therefore their intended use of the data is unlawful and constitutes a misrepresentation of authority.

    Question 4:What legislation are you requesting this information under?

    "Parking Act 1989"

    The Parking Act 1989 is concerned exclusively with parking places provided under statutory control by local authorities. It is therefore entirely irrelevant in this context and the applicant failed to identify any applicable legislation in their answer.

    Why does the DVLA even ask these questions if it doesn't even bother to read the answers?
    Je suis Charlie.
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