suggestions for a new car

Samsonite1

The OP is only doing 10 minute journeys so MPG is probably not going to be particularly relevant.

jase1

ChumLee wrote: »

Ok do the maths and tell me after making allowances for American fuel its 50 mpg.

I never said that Just pointing out that the US customary system and the UK Imperial one are not the same thing.

50mpg from a 3l petrol is the stuff of fantasy... if I thought I could get anywhere near that I'd have one myself. I struggle to get 40mpg from a 2l petrol engine...

ChumLee

neil.woos wrote: »

How credible is that random American site? Why can't we reply on official UK/EU figures that I HAVE quoted. I don't know where that American site got those figures from, probably from several people there driving their Automatics.

Who cares where they got them from. I was making the point they're online same as your figures were. But some how I'm the idiot. What mpg did your imaginary 330i give you?

neil.woos

jase1 wrote: »

I never said that Just pointing out that the US customary system and the UK Imperial one are not the same thing.

50mpg from a 3l petrol is the stuff of fantasy... if I thought I could get anywhere near that I'd have one myself. I struggle to get 40mpg from a 2l petrol engine...

If isn't far from fantasy. Many BMW drivers who had the older E46 330i regularly achieved 40ish mpg on a run. I'm not surprised at all if the newer 3 series with the direction injection 325i can achieve 45mpg on a steady run.

jase1

A good measure of real MPG is on Honest John's site.

The E90 325i is here:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/bmw/3-series-e90-2005/325i

Official combined 39.2MPG, 'real' according to HJ from real-world submissions 31.2MPG.

This seems about right to me.

neil.woos

jase1 wrote: »

A good measure of real MPG is on Honest John's site.

The E90 325i is here:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/bmw/3-series-e90-2005/325i

Official combined 39.2MPG, 'real' according to HJ from real-world submissions 31.2MPG.

This seems about right to me.

31.2mpg is a combined figure and most likely for an automatic. So why is it surprising that a 3 litre 325i manual can achieve a tad more than 40 mpg on a steady 60mph run.


325i>>>trumps the Vauxhall Astra/Insignia in everyway. Considering OP does little mileage mpg is not so relevant.

almillar

neil.woos - before you go digging yourself into a bigger hole (hint - don't recommend 6 cylinder cars to people who don't care about such things) - goto parkers.co.uk or another UK motoring website, and post links here to the stats for the 325i and Astra 1.6/1.8 that you're referring to. They'd better both be the same age.
OP ended up buying a Freelander anyway but just so you get your facts straight - you can't quote a car's extra urban MPG against another's combined MPG.

neil.woos

almillar wrote: »

neil.woos - before you go digging yourself into a bigger hole (hint - don't recommend 6 cylinder cars to people who don't care about such things) - goto parkers.co.uk or another UK motoring website, and post links here to the stats for the 325i and Astra 1.6/1.8 that you're referring to. They'd better both be the same age.
OP ended up buying a Freelander anyway but just so you get your facts straight - you can't quote a car's extra urban MPG against another's combined MPG.

And that is what I did. Why don't you compare a petrol 1.8 2010 manual Insignia to a petrol 3 litre 325i 2010 manual and come back here and tell me which is more efficient?

dannyrst

From Parkers:

BMW 325i SE - 33MPG
Astra 1.6 Life - 42MPG
Astra 1.8 Life - 36MPG

neil.woos

Hahaha an equivalent Insignia even has a higher road tax VED than the 325i. Markedly slower and significantly less power as well yet it still has worse MPG figures and more co2 emissions. Clearly shows the poor level of Engineering that goes into Vauxhalls.