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MSE News: Motorist takes parking charge challenge to highest UK court

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  • Johno100
    Johno100 Posts: 5,259 Forumite
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    menantoll wrote: »
    Which PPC do you work for?

    Come on, if he/she was a PPC sock puppet do you really think they would rack up a 900+ post count over 6 years, almost all in the Energy sub-board, before posting on parking matters? Crying wolf doesn't aid anybody.
  • arthurx1234
    arthurx1234 Posts: 421 Forumite
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    Tobster86 wrote: »
    Congratulations on posting the most sanctimonious drivel I've ever read in my life!

    By the way, upon reading this post you're contractually agreeing to pay me £80. You've read it and agreed to a contact. You understand these rules and they're here for everyone's benefit. You're guilty and should shut up.

    I'm waiting for the money.

    My keyboard is drenched with tears of laughter as i continually read posts from people who think it is "fine" ( can i use that word in this context) to overstay at a car park and then whine and winge when they get a penalty
    Free parking for 2 hours, return 2 hours 56 minutes later what right have you to complain if you are penalised? NONE

    I dislike paying to park but i dislike also those individuals who post thinking they are within their rights to overstay and should not be penalised and then publicise the fact on this forum.

    Read the rules before you park.

    Beavis may have read the rules but overstayed and must pay up

    Sorry if this goes against the general flow of the forum, as i have previously said he should pay

    Arthur
    BREXIT OOPS
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,420 Forumite
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    My keyboard is drenched with tears of laughter as i continually read posts from people who think it is "fine" ( can i use that word in this context) to overstay at a car park and then whine and winge when they get a penalty
    Free parking for 2 hours, return 2 hours 56 minutes later what right have you to complain if you are penalised? NONE

    I dislike paying to park but i dislike also those individuals who post thinking they are within their rights to overstay and should not be penalised and then publicise the fact on this forum.

    Read the rules before you park.

    Beavis may have read the rules but overstayed and must pay up

    Sorry if this goes against the general flow of the forum, as i have previously said he should pay

    Arthur

    I find this a bit of a strange position of yours Arthur, because you've posted a number of recent threads here asking for advice in dealing with your own PCNs.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5206641

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5223794

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5219986

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5213977

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5209691

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5207717

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5206641

    As I say, somewhat strange! I'll leave it at that.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,916 Forumite
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    Noone is advocating that he pay nothing. They are advocating that he pay a fair rate based on the actual overstay (and not a fictional value that happens to match a council fine) and the company chasing him for payment follow both the law and their own trade bodies code of practice.

    The argument that he prevented someone else from parking is also completely void if there were spaces available. His infraction cost the centre nothing, and cost the PPC nothing, so where does the £80 figure come from? Would you still agree if the figure was £800? £8000? £80,000?
  • RichardD1970
    RichardD1970 Posts: 3,796 Forumite
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    My keyboard is drenched with tears of laughter as i continually read posts from people who think it is "fine" ( can i use that word in this context) to overstay at a car park and then whine and winge when they get a penalty
    Free parking for 2 hours, return 2 hours 56 minutes later what right have you to complain if you are penalised? NONE

    I dislike paying to park but i dislike also those individuals who post thinking they are within their rights to overstay and should not be penalised and then publicise the fact on this forum.

    Read the rules before you park.

    Beavis may have read the rules but overstayed and must pay up

    Sorry if this goes against the general flow of the forum, as i have previously said he should pay

    Arthur

    Maybe if the PPC's stuck to their own (made up) rules themselves people wouldn't be quite so against them. Quite apart from the fact they regularly break real actual laws in the way they operate.
  • nicechap
    nicechap Posts: 2,852 Forumite
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    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • arthurx1234
    arthurx1234 Posts: 421 Forumite
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    edited 4 June 2015 at 3:56PM
    In reply to those posters who think it is strange that i think Beavis should pay due to my previous posts on the subject of PPC IAS BPA etc.

    I detest any company who ignores their own COP or fails to let common sense prevail however in this instance Beavis should pay up

    Sorry chaps

    I realise i am swimming against the tide, but free speech, voicing own opinions and all that, he is in the wrong for not paying and dragging this one out.

    I apologise for my habit of free thinking but people on this forum should try it sometime- be careful it could confuse a stupid person but if you are happy following the rest of the sheep then go ahead baa baa

    Arthur
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  • RichardD1970
    RichardD1970 Posts: 3,796 Forumite
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    In reply to those posters who think it is strange that i think Beavis should pay due to my previous posts on the subject of PPC IAS BPA etc.

    I detest any company who ignores their own COP or fails to let common sense prevail however in this instance Beavis should pay up

    Sorry chaps

    I realise i am swimming against the tide, but free speech, voicing own opinions and all that, he is in the wrong for not paying and dragging this one out.

    I apologise for my habit of free thinking but people on this forum should try it sometime- be careful it could confuse a stupid person but if you are happy following the rest of the sheep then go ahead baa baa

    Arthur

    Indeed, the same as we are all entitled to without being insulted. Nice way to win an argument :rotfl:
  • Arthur, why didn't your son follow your advice , he was in the wrong when parked ,pay up and shut up
    I Am Charlie
  • arthurx1234
    arthurx1234 Posts: 421 Forumite
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    edited 4 June 2015 at 4:40PM
    Arthur, why didn't your son follow your advice , he was in the wrong when parked ,pay up and shut up

    We gather the information and make our own decision, people who post on this forum should try it sometime.

    I wish i had the time to trawl though other peoples posts to try and get the intellectual edge over other posters ho hum

    but to steer this topic back to where it belongs Beavis is wrong (my opinion)
    Beavis is right (your opinion) time will tell

    Arthur
    BREXIT OOPS
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