Windows 10

NiftyDigits

Terry98 wrote: »

Thanks. Didn't think the Sandisk was that bad and thought I had got a bargain for less than £30!
From what you say it will improve the laptop and save my mate having to buy a new machine.
What about the drivers for this machine? I see some people have been having problems with graphic card drivers even with installing WIN10 by the MS standard upgrade.

It will run better with a clean install of Windows 7 to the SSD without the bloat. Installation media in your Inbox.
Then you can decide as to whether to upgrade to Windows 10.. there really is no need to rush into it.

The Sandisk Plus 120GB isn't terrible. It's just not up there was the best in class.

buglawton

This article in today's Sunday Times confirms my worst fears re the non-readiness of drivers - in this example the sound card failed to work after the upgrade:

Windows 10 wants you as a guinea pig
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/ingear/Tech___Games/article1589858.eve
(Limited view on that paywalled link)

custardy

buglawton wrote: »

This article in today's Sunday Times confirms my worst fears re the non-readiness of drivers - in this example the sound card failed to work after the upgrade:

Windows 10 wants you as a guinea pig
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/ingear/Tech___Games/article1589858.eve
(Limited view on that paywalled link)

Limited,as in nothing.
We have been 'testing' W10 for months now. The non readiness of drivers is down to the hardware supplier.

RumRat

buglawton wrote: »

This article in today's Sunday Times confirms my worst fears re the non-readiness of drivers - in this example the sound card failed to work after the upgrade:

Windows 10 wants you as a guinea pig
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/ingear/Tech___Games/article1589858.eve
(Limited view on that paywalled link)

Never get your tech knowledge/quotes from a newspaper....:eek:

buglawton

RumRat wrote: »

Never get your tech knowledge/quotes from a newspaper....:eek:

You're right, the article says that a free download of Windows 10 is on offer.

Not true at all.

What's on offer is that you agree to delete your known good W7 or W8 and replace it with an OS that will not have been properly tested on your own model laptop and collection of USB connected hardware.

6 months is a bit too long to wait for the soundcard drivers to arrive.

I'd be willing to give it a go if I were offered the ability to install on a brand new hard drive. If all the key things I need work - trackpad, soundcard, ancient satnav etc (they all do with W7) then I'll definitely switch over.

NiftyDigits

buglawton wrote: »

You're right, the article says that a free download of Windows 10 is on offer.

Not true at all.

What's on offer is that you agree to delete your known good W7 or W8 and replace it with an OS that will not have been properly tested on your own model laptop and collection of USB connected hardware.

6 months is a bit too long to wait for the soundcard drivers to arrive.

I'd be willing to give it a go if I were offered the ability to install on a brand new hard drive. If all the key things I need work - trackpad, soundcard, ancient satnav etc (they all do with W7) then I'll definitely switch over.

You can install it on a brand new hard drive. Just image your current OS, upgrade to Windows 10, wait until activated and then obtain media in order to run a clean install of Windows 10.
If you need help with a specific machine, just ask.

buglawton

NiftyDigits wrote: »

You can install it on a brand new hard drive. Just image your current OS, upgrade to Windows 10, wait until activated and then obtain media in order to run a clean install of Windows 10.
If you need help with a specific machine, just ask.

Sure, but I assumed that the change of hard drive would be detected by Windows due to its serial number bring different.

Like this:
http://superuser.com/questions/820014/windows-7-no-longer-genuine-after-cloning-failing-hard-drive-to-new-hard-drive

On top of that I'd probably have to decrypt my drive first (being W7 Home Premium it does not have built in encryption so I used Truecrypt). Finally, lots and lots of stories about free re-imaging software being unreliable.

Life is never simple, if W10 were delivered truly free I'd do a clean install (which is what one should do anyway).

I_have_spoken

so I used Truecrypt

That's been busted by the FBI, probably many others.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/04/truecrypt_decrypted_by_fbi/

buglawton

I_have_spoken wrote: »

That's been busted by the FBI, probably many others.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/04/truecrypt_decrypted_by_fbi/

I use the old version of TC that was mysteriously pulled. There's been a Validation project on its source code running for years, where not a chink has been found in it... yet.

However the FBI are welcome to visit me personally any time and have a go at decrypting my drive. TC gives me peace of mind for the casually stolen or lost laptop scenario, not heard of any better free alternative yet.

NiftyDigits

buglawton wrote: »

Sure, but I assumed that the change of hard drive would be detected by Windows due to its serial number bring different.

Like this:
http://superuser.com/questions/820014/windows-7-no-longer-genuine-after-cloning-failing-hard-drive-to-new-hard-drive

On top of that I'd probably have to decrypt my drive first (being W7 Home Premium it does not have built in encryption so I used Truecrypt). Finally, lots and lots of stories about free re-imaging software being unreliable.

Life is never simple, if W10 were delivered truly free I'd do a clean install (which is what one should do anyway).

You can still do it, even if as you believe the HDD is somehow part of the activation process.. Just back up and then remove your old have drive. Replace with new HDD/SSD. You can install Windows 7 cleanly to new SSD/HDD and then upgrade to Windows 10...then to run a clean install with media to the new HDD/SSD. You can then move data over from the back up. You can replace the original HDD to the machine at will. So you can have a Windows 10 HDD/SSD and your original Windows 7 HDD. Both activated.

It's not a problem. Just ask when you are ready.