Windows 10

kwikbreaks

While searching for that I see mention that recovery partitions in general are a thing of the past with Win 10. Not at all sure how that will pan out although tbh I've never relied on them or used one anyway as I prefer to make my own image backups anyway.

tronator

GunJack wrote: »

one of the FAQ somewhere stated it would overwrite any existing recovery partition, so yes you will need to image your system immediately prior to applying the update, and immediately after as it will not create a new W10 recovery partition.

This says otherwise

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/what-happens-if-it-is-necessary-to-do-a-factory/51f152db-9ca1-46f6-9e27-9613c49e5272

So best way is to make an image immediately after the upgrade. This way you will avoid problems if you need to factory reset the PC after 1 year. You might not be able to upgrade again for free afterwards.

GunJack

tronator wrote: »

This says otherwise

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-win_upgrade/what-happens-if-it-is-necessary-to-do-a-factory/51f152db-9ca1-46f6-9e27-9613c49e5272

So best way is to make an image immediately after the upgrade. This way you will avoid problems if you need to factory reset the PC after 1 year. You might not be able to upgrade again for free afterwards.

sorry, but it doesn't. It talks (not clearly, admittedly) about the unconfirmed possibility of being able to burn recovery disks once W10 is in place on the machine, but not that 10 will create a recovery partition. The talk of reinstalling your original 7/8 was from recovery disks, not from a partition..

I think MS should definitively clarify how this will all work...

I personally will take images immediately before & after installing 10, and continue my monthly taking of backup images to negate any issues.....

tronator

GunJack wrote: »

sorry, but it doesn't. It talks (not clearly, admittedly) about the unconfirmed possibility of being able to burn recovery disks once W10 is in place on the machine, but not that 10 will create a recovery partition. The talk of reinstalling your original 7/8 was from recovery disks, not from a partition..

They don't talk about it because it is the black cat in the dark room. If it would update the recovery partition, then the whole discussion would have been over on the first page already. This was the first answer from a MS engineer

"If you will do a factory reset then you will have to upgrade to 8.1 first and then only you will be able to install Windows 10. To install Windows 10, you should have Windows 8.1 installed on your computer."

indesisiv

Correct me if I'm wrong but the recovery partition was always the factory default. If you upgraded the operating system it never has updated the recovery partition. Why would it now?

GunJack

tronator wrote: »

They don't talk about it because it is the black cat in the dark room. If it would update the recovery partition, then the whole discussion would have been over on the first page already. This was the first answer from a MS engineer

"If you will do a factory reset then you will have to upgrade to 8.1 first and then only you will be able to install Windows 10. To install Windows 10, you should have Windows 8.1 installed on your computer."

and this is the bit that needs the clarification as to how it will be achieved - by the old OS (be it 7, 8 or 8.1) pre-existing recovery partition left intact after installing W10, or by using the recovery disks you created when the machine was new......

GunJack

indesisiv wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but the recovery partition was always the factory default. If you upgraded the operating system it never has updated the recovery partition. Why would it now?

of course it won't..... and any recovery disks burned off will also not be updated.... but try reinstating the old OS from a recovery partition on a borked hdd...... New hdd, need recovery disks

tavernman

Recovery partitions are a waste of time, better to create a fresh image (without the recovery included bloatware) as soon as you buy a PC having removed the bloat , and another after installing your paid/free software of choice.
The remove the "recovery" partiton or expand it and use it for (quick restoring of the last few images) but not the prime recovery images in cas the whole disk goes tick-a-click-a-tick one day. Then every time there is a major update e.g. a Service Pack(are they going to disappear ??), or a new release of your favourite package create another image. If you are like most sane people(Yeah I include you in that Gunny:cool:) you will do images every month/quarter regardless.

Double_V

Does this mean we have to re-install all the softwares again. And also back up Documents etc. ?

custardy

Double_V wrote: »

Does this mean we have to re-install all the softwares again. And also back up Documents etc. ?

Always back up! There will likely be an upgrade choice.