Birmingham airport - fine?

Folkiedave

The chances are that the "red route" has been painted by the parking company (or the airport) either way they are not like the Red Routes you get in London.

Do not think of paying. The story of your reason for stopping (and you weren't "parked") is fine in my opinion and would stand up in court. Should it get that far.

Read around the airport threads (JLA: Luton; Newcastle; etc.) and that will give you a better idea how to handle this.

HO87

@Arcon5 Might I make an educated guess that the PCN was issued by APCOA?

enfield_freddy

we are still awaiting the answer to this question,


however after re reading the fist post , I wonder if this happened yesterday and no letters have arrived yet

arcon5

Sorry I cannot answer some of the questions, I don't know if it's a road under the RTA or the airport or who manages it and what laws apply.

Not received the ticket yet, but only happened today. I guess i'll know more in a week or two.

To give a better idea here are some photos:

http://s8.postimg.org/h6apabgol/image1.gif
I'm the red dot. The camera van pulled up at the yellow dot. No other cars was there, image just picked up from Google.

http://s1.postimg.org/vbcdo468v/image2.gif
A better view of where it is.
Red dot me and i've drawn red lines showing the route you take to go in to the airports drop and go and the yellow line route back out of airport towards main routes back north.

Umkomaas

This isn't complicated at this stage. We just need to know who (when you receive anything) issued you with any penalty/parking notice. You don't know at this stage if anything at all will be issued.

Until then, it is merely speculation, and not helpful! Come back if/when you get any correspondence on the matter. We will then point you in the right direction?

Redx

it will be APCOA, wait for the NTK and then come back and appeal it same as the dozens of others at BM airport , apcoa , popla

agrinnall

On StreetView that layby seems to be full of car transporters, which unfortunately are blocking any signage. However, if you go back down the road a bit towards the terminal there is a visible No stopping sign which includes the words:

"This is a private road"

No idea what that means in terms of who would issue the ticket or what challenge could be made to it.

Ralph-y

with grateful thank to the hard work of Redx



more recent links that can be used as an example to any other person that posts about airports , be it Doncaster (RHA) , Liverpool (JLA) , Humberside , Luton or Birmingham etc

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5132921

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5192051

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5130131

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177878

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5180656

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177198

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177258

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5110349

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5171250

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5156653

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5152822

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5131416

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5149455

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5148343

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5105940

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5139477

Ralph:cool:

HO87

agrinnall wrote: »

On StreetView that layby seems to be full of car transporters, which unfortunately are blocking any signage. However, if you go back down the road a bit towards the terminal there is a visible No stopping sign which includes the words:

"This is a private road"

No idea what that means in terms of who would issue the ticket or what challenge could be made to it.

It would seem that the road is within the airport and from that point of view will be subject of the airport byelaws. APCOA were employed some time ago to "enforce" the byelaws on the approach roads and car parks at Birmingham. The fact that the areas they seek to "enforce" on are covered by the byelaws means that they cannot invoke the Protection of Freedoms Act, Schedule 4 (keeper liability) because those areas are not "relevant land". That doesn't stop them implying that they have that option open to them in their paperwork but then their only interest is in farming sorry, enforcing the parking rules for maximum gain.

As said above, wait for the Notice to Keeper (should arrive somewhere between 28 and 56 days and should not be the first letter that arrives from them) then appeal - as the keeper (not the driver) - using the guidance as to the legal issues in the Newbies thread. That will be refused but the subsequent appeal to POPLA will win. Total outlay = Nil.

Umkomaas

That will be refused but the subsequent appeal to POPLA will win. Total outlay = Nil.

But don't rely on regulars to ensure OP outlay is 'Nil'!