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codemonkey

Sounds to me like he's eating for reasons other than hunger. Comfort maybe or habit. Or maybe once he starts, he can't stop. I'm like that with crisps. I can never have just one pack and once I start snacking, I find myself wandering into the kitchen looking for something else. At the moment, if I find myself doing it, I ask if I really want it or if its just habit or boredom. 9 out of 10 times, I return empty handed.

The carb addicts diet might be a good one for him - I did it for a while before my wedding and it did work. The idea is to reduce the insulin spikes and addiction to carby food. So for breakfast and lunch he would have a high protein diet and only 6g of carbs and then for dinner he gets an hour and can eat whatever he wants so he can have the same meal as you and a pudding and some wine or beer or whatever but as soon as the hour is up, he can't have anything else. Snacks aren't permitted so it does break the habit.

The other thing I can recommend is the no s diet - no snacks, no sweets, no seconds except on days beginning with S (this includes special days like birthdays, Christmas and Easter). That one is quite good because it does have release days.

codemonkey

mellymoo74 wrote: »

I contract Georgie if I'm not there no pay xx

This is precisely why I don't contract.

You do need to look after yourself melly. If you collapse or make yourself sicker, then you'll end up being off for longer.

mellymoo74

It's the downside.

I had savings but they went at Christmas when we had the niece because the SIL had cancer (it was a lie)

mellymoo74

I am an idiot
Sent OH out am I resting no I'm mopping everywhere seriously I need to be tied up.
I can't bloody walk properly why am I mopping

Waves_and_Smiles

Ugh, big hugs tea, that's awful. Are things any better today?

I am going to get on my soapbox now.

As far as weight goes I am permanently around 4 stone overweight. I am not happy about it but dieting is out of the question for me firstly because it triggers my ED and secondly because my endocrinologist believes that a lot of the reason my thyroid function is so unstable (and ironically therefore why I stay overweight) is because of years of extreme dieting and binging. I have basically broken my thyroid and metabolism. Please, anyone who is thinking of dieting or gaining weight don't do what I did and yoyo diet, I would eat almost nothing for 6 months and then eat everything for the next 6 months and repeat. It honestly can cause physical damage if done over a long period and it is irreversible.

I would lose around 7 pounds a week by frantic exercise and eating practically nothing ( literally a small slice of dry slimmers bread and a no-fat yoghurt a day or one bowl of porridge made with water daily plus slimming pills or even Speed followed by hours at the gym) and then swing the other way and gain as much just as fast by eating high sugar and high fat foods constantly and not exercising at all. I would binge eat so much that I couldn't breathe properly due to the amount of food I would eat at one sitting and I aimed to have severe stomach pain as a result. I kept this up for 20 years and now my thyroid and metabolism both need medication just to function vaguely normally, my teeth are stained from throwing food up and I developed Reflux Disease due to the amount of stomach acid. At one point my heartbeat became irregular and I was very unwell. I did have thyroid disease and Hypoglycaemia to start with which was part of my initial weight gain but the way I fed myself only made both advance much more quickly.

The 5:2 does seem healthy, I would do it if I could but my endocrinologist says don't even think of it or any dieting ever again. Now I eat very healthily and should be slimmer than I am but bits of me are broken. Losing weight is good for you but please do it the right way and don't go for dramatic results overnight, slowly does it so that your body can adjust.

Off my soap box.

Three days to go and I am on holiday!

System

I haven#'t given up on losing weight as such, i;m just not mentally in the right place for another serious attempt after the last one failed so badly. How i could be eating properly (according to the nutrionist i saw), going to zumba and swimming twice a week, and going gym 3 times a week (this as before i started my job) and not lose ANY weight has just put me off. I gave it my all and stuck to it religiously and nothing, nada, zip.

So i'm currently in a a "whats the !!!!ing point" frame of mind . An old doctor of mine said i could be possibly be skinny but mentally unstable, or fat and stable. Currently i'm ok with how i am. Yes i would like to be slimmer, but thats my problem. My motivation is't about being healthy, its about being thin, and that is dodgy territory after i lost a lot of weight in my teenage years through pretty much starvation.

Georgiegirl256

codemonkey wrote: »

Sounds to me like he's eating for reasons other than hunger. Comfort maybe or habit. Or maybe once he starts, he can't stop. I'm like that with crisps. I can never have just one pack and once I start snacking, I find myself wandering into the kitchen looking for something else. At the moment, if I find myself doing it, I ask if I really want it or if its just habit or boredom. 9 out of 10 times, I return empty handed.

The carb addicts diet might be a good one for him - I did it for a while before my wedding and it did work. The idea is to reduce the insulin spikes and addiction to carby food. So for breakfast and lunch he would have a high protein diet and only 6g of carbs and then for dinner he gets an hour and can eat whatever he wants so he can have the same meal as you and a pudding and some wine or beer or whatever but as soon as the hour is up, he can't have anything else. Snacks aren't permitted so it does break the habit.

The other thing I can recommend is the no s diet - no snacks, no sweets, no seconds except on days beginning with S (this includes special days like birthdays, Christmas and Easter). That one is quite good because it does have release days.

Crisps are my downfall too. I can easily polish off a large bag of Walkers Sensations!

You're right though code, the majority of times I'd say he's not eating through hunger, rather out of habit.

I've never heard of those diets before. They do sound good and like something that might be easy to maintain. I will suggest them to him.

I've got to admit, when I was a size 8 and could eat anything and not put any weight on, I just couldn't understand why people who were overweight and wanted to lose weight just couldn't stop eating so much. Now I'm a size 12, I understand, it's just not that easy.

Georgiegirl256

mellymoo74 wrote: »

It's the downside.

I had savings but they went at Christmas when we had the niece because the SIL had cancer (it was a lie)

mellymoo74 wrote: »

I am an idiot
Sent OH out am I resting no I'm mopping everywhere seriously I need to be tied up.
I can't bloody walk properly why am I mopping

Yes you do need to be tied up! :rotfl: Sit down woman!

I remember you saying about your SIL in your other thread. She was lying? How sick is that?!

Waves_and_Smiles

I was similar, MU. When I wanted to lose weight I didn't want to be healthy I wanted to be very thin and would aim for that. Then when I wanted to gain weight I wanted to severely overweight because it made me feel protected. I never wanted to be a healthy weight. The last nutritionist I saw told me to aim for maintenance even though I am overweight. Within 7 pounds of my current weight up or down. If I lose or gain more my thyroid misfires and my hair starts falling out, I become very cold and tired and very dizzy. I don't want to sound like a nag but I do feel very strongly about people dieting the correct way to keep their bodies healthy, if you harm your body like I did there is no way to reverse it and believe me, having your thyroid and metabolism broken isn't fun and is potentially dangerous and you will need medication for the rest of your life. It is one of my biggest regrets. Yes, I was unwell with ED but I was also thoroughly stupid and ignored offers of help because I wanted to keep doing it.

Would hubby go to a nutritionist Georgie? The ones I have seen are very good and realise that people need treats so don't eliminate all of the fun foods. They also tend to work with your likes and dislikes and work out a plan that is tailored to suit the individual and their activity levels.

System

Waves_and_Smiles wrote: »

I was similar, MU. When I wanted to lose weight I didn't want to be healthy I wanted to be very thin and would aim for that. Then when I wanted to gain weight I wanted to severely overweight because it made me feel protected. I never wanted to be a healthy weight. The last nutritionist I saw told me to aim for maintenance even though I am overweight. Within 7 pounds of my current weight up or down. If I lose or gain more my thyroid misfires and my hair starts falling out, I become very cold and tired and very dizzy. I don't want to sound like a nag but I do feel very strongly about people dieting the correct way to keep their bodies healthy, if you harm your body like I did there is no way to reverse it and believe me, having your thyroid and metabolism broken isn't fun and is potentially dangerous and you will need medication for the rest of your life.

Would hubby go to a nutritionist Georgie? The ones I have seen are very good and realise that people need treats so don't eliminate all of the fun foods. They also tend to work with your likes and dislikes and work out a plan that is tailored to suit the individual and their activity levels.

My mum has warned me of this, she's spent her whole life dieting, when she was younger she used to survive on just a piece of grapefruit a day and use laxatives. Now at 53, she really struggles to lose weight, unless she severly restricts her diet which she accepts is not healthy or sustainable. She says her metabolism is screwed now because of what she did dieting wise. I remember a few years ago she lost about 5 stone and although she was slimmer it got to the point i was seriously worried about her as, as i don't see her so often it was a massive shock to see her after that. her problem is i don;t think she;s actually that overweight, but when she looks in the mirror all she sees is fat I hate seeing her so unhappy over it