Better off Financially living apart or as a couple?

Graham_Devon

kimevans wrote: »

Graham
How many of these people who support the OP pay tax??????...............

Havent a clue!!

mummytohollieandpinkbump

missylou wrote: »

Sorry but you seem to have missed INHO the best bit of all!

"..the only benefits i recieve are child benefit (which everyone is entilted to) and tax credits which pay for my daughters clothes,nappies,wipes,food etc. so yes tax credits do come in handy to pay for our daughters things..."

Would these be the tax credits that grow on the government magic money tree? Or would these be tax credits provided by other hard working people who are actually responsible enough to plan a family that they can actually afford to maintain by themselves!

ok so i tell you what i'll cancel my tax credits and have my daughter go hungry and live as a tramp shall i. i dont f***king think so.

god i am so angry at your reply.:mad:

if i COULD work i would trust me but why should i miss out on my children growing up. i've even been looking for a job but whos going to employ a 6 month pg lady not many people.so i'm waiting til my children are at school and then go to uni to train as a midwife and then shall be a taxpayer again.

also if i did go back to work i would be working just to pay for someone else to look after my children as childcare is far to expensive nowadays.

my daughter and my unborn child are my world and i dont want to miss a thing.

also before i got pregnant with my daughter i was working and paying taxes so we knew finacially we could afford to have a child without relying on benefits. but when i did get pregnant it made me very ill and i had to sadly leave work (which btw i miss terribly) once my daughter was born we decided we wanted another as we both come from a close knit family and we want our children to have the same.

and last thing. i could also apply for housing benefit and council tax benefit but we choose not too. i am NOt one of those who trys to get every benefit going. tax credits just help us out with the essentials for my daughter.

wifeforlife

poppyscorner wrote: »

I am one of those taxpayers and I for one am glad my money is there to support families like craigs even if the rest of you arent because honestly that is what I believe it is for everybody reacts to bereavement differently and tbh he only posted those details because they were dragged out of him by someone pushing for answers he owes no one here anything and I am glad he managed to get some decent advice how many of those people posting against him have ever needed this countrys welfare system to support them ?
Not many I bet because if you had you wouldn't look down your noses at others as much as you have done.
Craigs character has been ripped to bits here and there is no need for any of it he asked a simple question expected a simple answer and got 7 pages of mostly abuse.
Have I also ripped the system because I have just had 26weeks paid maternity leave sat on my but doing nothing lets not forget in your day you got six weeks and that was it

No your not ripping the system as the law states a maximum of 26 weeks maternity (I think it's changed now too). Re-read his original post

He wants to know if its better off financially living seperately or together to maximise both his and his partners benefits.

I take great exception to him not working full time being a single man with no responsibilities, he's as good as my daughters father. I say no responsibilities because he doesnt provide a roof over his childs head (his partner does that through her benefits) he does not feed his child (his partner does that through her benefits). What exactly are his benefits for?! Emmmmmmmmmm oh yes, him!

Cate

Graham_Devon

djdoc1975 wrote: »

I thought this was a financial site and not a personal website and people should be helping with the question i asked and not asking about personal details. There are reasons as to why we dont live together at the moment.

I just wanted to know if i was working part time and living with them would would my partner and son be better off financially?

Just to clarify as the heartless !!!!!!! thing is coming out. This was craigs question until he was rumbled and then he became someone who was violent :rolleyes:

poppyscorner

Graham_Devon wrote: »

We wouldnt be having a go if he didnt take up 2 council houses. If he actually wanted to help himself and his family we wouldnt be having a go. Oh yer, and another thing, we wouldnt be having a go if he was going to work full time to keep his family. Oh god theres more, yer, we wouldnt be having a go if he wasnt saying 'I dont want to work like the rest of you I want to see my kid so I want your money instead'.

I can't believe as a tax payer your letting him and actively encouraging him to rip you off quite so much.

Bereavement of a father when he's 31 years old?!? Thats an excuse for all this is it?! Damn, well why hadn't everyone else used it!? Everyone else gets a couple of days of work if that. Of course craig should have 2 council houses, 2 council tax's paid, 2 rents paid etc etc etc because hes violent and he lost his dad (which we all do). :rolleyes:

No one wants to lose a dad and it's painful for ALL of us.

No one wants to loose any member of their family I have lost very close family one loss was my daughter and my hubby and I reacted very differently to that loss and that is the point I was trying to make I was in and out of my job for months after that rushing back to work 8 weeks after her death because I didn't want to be a freeloader and then ending up off for a lot longer having another child getting PND trying to take my own life etc etc I understand where he is coming from because I have been there however now I am fully recovered and more capable to make a valid contribution to the workplace

Lets face it you have to pay taxes no matter what if it wasn't people like Craig collecting it it would be the next asylum seeker, alcoholic or drug dealer that your taxes pay for I am not actively encouraging him to do anything I have simply said I can understand his reasons for living apart and I think the safety of his girlfriend and baby are paramount never would I encourage him to put them at risk as some of you lot have he is a violent man he has said but he has also said that he is working on it and they do all want to live in one house but he is not ready for that yet I cannot see what the problem is really I can't.

Graham_Devon

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

ok so i tell you what i'll cancel my tax credits and have my daughter go hungry and live as a tramp shall i. i dont f***king think so.

god i am so angry at your reply.:mad:

also if i did go back to work i would be working just to pay for someone else to look after my children as childcare is far to expensive nowadays.

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Yer, you would have to pay for childcare.

As it is, the taxpayer is instead paying for your childs childcare.

Whats with all the swearing by the way? Don't try and push an image into our heads

Graham_Devon

poppyscorner wrote: »

No one wants to loose any member of their family I have lost very close family one loss was my daughter and my hubby and I reacted very differently to that loss and that is the point I was trying to make I was in and out of my job for months after that rushing back to work 8 weeks after her death because I didn't want to be a freeloader and then ending up off for a lot longer having another child getting PND trying to take my own life etc etc I understand where he is coming from because I have been there however now I am fully recovered and more capable to make a valid contribution to the workplace

Lets face it you have to pay taxes no matter what if it wasn't people like Craig collecting it it would be the next asylum seeker, alcoholic or drug dealer that your taxes pay for I am not actively encouraging him to do anything I have simply said I can understand his reasons for living apart and I think the safety of his girlfriend and baby are paramount never would I encourage him to put them at risk as some of you lot have he is a violent man he has said but he has also said that he is working on it and they do all want to live in one house but he is not ready for that yet I cannot see what the problem is really I can't.

I'd rather an asylum seeker who has been through hell in their own countries and are fleeing death and will probably never see their family again has my tax money than craig in his current position thanks.

These asylum seekers are putting themselves through sheer hell to do better for their families.

Half of them die of oxygen starvation in the back of lorries just trying to get some money to their families so they can eat.

Whats craig doing exaclty?

wifeforlife

mummytohollieandpinkbump wrote: »

ok so i tell you what i'll cancel my tax credits and have my daughter go hungry and live as a tramp shall i. i dont f***king think so.

god i am so angry at your reply.:mad:

if i COULD work i would trust me but why should i miss out on my children growing up. i've even been looking for a job but whos going to employ a 6 month pg lady not many people.so i'm waiting til my children are at school and then go to uni to train as a midwife and then shall be a taxpayer again.

also if i did go back to work i would be working just to pay for someone else to look after my children as childcare is far to expensive nowadays.

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Nobody is saying you arent entitled to tax credits, they are there for a reason. I personally think well done for having a future goal as a midwive, theres a huge shortage of them, and remember because it's NHS you'll get a bursary.

But I take exception to some parts of your post.

Why should you miss out on your child growing up. You wouldnt be you'd be working to provide a better life for them, I dont miss out on my daughter growing up, I get my daughter her breakfast and have a laugh in the mornings, I leave her to school (shes 3.5), I pick her up after work, I get her dinner and she helps, I wash up and she helps, we muck around for an hour together, then I get her ready for bed and sing her a song, at the weekends I'm with her 24-7.

What am I missing out on?!

Childcare is a nightmare, I'm someone who doesnt even have childcare at the moment, I saved all my annual leave (havent used any at all) so I am able to work half days over the summer (northern Ireland school hols are July and August). Tax credits do help the childcare costs and I dont apologise for getting tax credits.

Your very lucky in the sense you have a partner who can share the childcare load, I've always done it all by myself, when my daughter is ill, it's just me, if she was up all night, it was just me. We dust ourselves down and get on with it, because it's the right thing to do

By the way dont get so angry remember you've a bump lol and it's only the t'internet

Cate

mummytohollieandpinkbump

kimevans wrote: »

Tax Credits are benefits & they come out of tax payers tax.
When my daughter was a baby till two I lived with her father, my husband. I was a SAHM & we recieved NO state benefits at all & he wasn't in a well paying job. When we seperated (due to his serial adultry) I HAD to go back to work. I hated having to leave my two year old, but I felt I had no choice other than to earn to pay our way.
Unlike you I didn't recieve benefits EVER to pay for my daughters clothes,nappies,wipes,food etc.
Its nice for you that my tax that I pay now & more importantly the tax paid by other working mums allows you the choice to be a stay at home mum. That last bit is the most ironic of all.

first of all my partner is in a rubbish paid job and his wage just about covers the rent,bills and food. tax credits cover the rest.i WAS working til i fall pg with my daughter but had to leave as i was seriously ill with her. once we had her we decided to have another as we wanted our children close together.

second of all i was a taxpayer from the age of 16 til i fall pg at 18 and i plan to go to uni once my children are in nursery/school.

i would find a job but who would want to take on a 6 month pg lady and i would be working basically to pay for someone else to look after my kids and watch them grow up when it is my job to do so so wahts the point. i want my children to grow up having there mummy around as much as possible not in childcare everyday.

really id not give a flying f**k what you all think my children are my world and if i choose not to work to see them grow up then thats my choice.

fair enough it would be different if i was:

a 16 year old falling pg on purpose to get a council house and all the benefits i could get my hands on but i'm not. we rent privately and we only claim tax credits theres plenty more we could claim but we dont.

viktory

I think we should have vote and find out who supports the OP and who doesn't. Then find out which ones work and pay tax and which don't. Could be telling.